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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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 Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:26 am Post subject: Obama now seen as more electable than Hillary |
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http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-obama-gains
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Ongoing nomination fight hurting Clinton more than Obama
By CHARLES BABINGTON and TREVOR TOMPSON, Associated Press Writers
WASHINGTON (AP) � In a dramatic reversal, an Associated Press-Yahoo! News poll found that a clear majority of Democratic voters now say Sen. Barack Obama has a better chance of defeating Republican Sen. John McCain in November than Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
While Obama and Clinton are both sustaining dents and dings from their lengthy presidential fight, the former first lady is clearly suffering more. Democratic voters no longer see her as the party's strongest contender for the White House.
Voters of all types have gotten a better sense of Obama, who was an obscure Illinois legislator just four years ago. As more people moved from the "I don't know him" category in the AP-Yahoo! News poll, more rated Obama as inexperienced, unethical and dishonest. And 15 percent erroneously think he's a Muslim, thanks in part to disinformation widely spread on the Internet.
But Obama's positive ratings have climbed as well, while Clinton � widely known since the early 1990s � has been less able to change people's views of her. And when those views have shifted, it has hurt her more than helped.
The New York senator's ratings for being honest, likable, ethical and refreshing have fallen since January, and Obama scores higher than she does in all those categories. |
It looks like Democrat voters have finally come to see what a lot of us have been saying all along - that Hillary is less electable than Obama. I don't know exactly what it is but the hatred Hillary inspires is astonishing - enough to get people who normally wouldn't vote out to vote against her, and to put off swing voters. Obama's chops as a speaker, on the other hand, wins people over, and makes you want to believe in him. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:14 am Post subject: |
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| Obama's chops as a speaker, on the other hand, wins people over, and makes you want to believe in him. |
Yes, he's better on the stump. Significantly better. But his glass jaw is the debates.
David Brooks
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He sprinkled his debate performance Wednesday night with the sorts of fibs, evasions and hypocrisies that are the stuff of conventional politics. He claimed falsely that his handwriting wasn�t on a questionnaire about gun control. He claimed that he had never attacked Clinton for her exaggerations about the Tuzla airport, though his campaign was all over it. Obama piously condemned the practice of lifting other candidates� words out of context, but he has been doing exactly the same thing to John McCain, especially over his 100 years in Iraq comment.
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Hillary has credibility issues, but Obama doesn't seem much better in my book.
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| It was inevitable that the period of �Yes We Can!� deification would come to an end. It was not inevitable that Obama would now look so vulnerable. |
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stillnotking
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Location: Oregon, USA
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Two rules of thumb. First, if you are citing David Brooks to prove a point, you are almost certainly wrong. Second, any column that contains the words "fair or not" is almost certainly worthless.
Obama doesn't do well at "gotcha" politics. The thing is, Americans don't want a candidate who does well at "gotcha" politics. If they did, Clinton would be the frontrunner right now.
Obama's response to the ludicrous ABC debate is here. If you want a three-minute summation of why he's going to be the next President, you could do a lot worse. |
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Kuros
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| Two rules of thumb. First, if you are citing David Brooks to prove a point, you are almost certainly wrong. Second, any column that contains the words "fair or not" is almost certainly worthless. |
ROFL. Fair enough. But its 'Battle of the Op-Eds.' |
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