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If a Uni hires you in Korea, return air-ticket?
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Omkara



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: If a Uni hires you in Korea, return air-ticket? Reply with quote

I'm looking at a contract, and they do not provide severance and a return ticket. Is there not a law which requires them to provide these?

All other things look really good about this job. I just need information on this point so as to think more clearly about it.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They must have forgotten to include them in the contract. Nothing to worry about, honest mistake I'm sure. Just mention the oversight to them and have them prepare a revised contract.
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kiwiana



Joined: 29 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The law states that if an employer pays into an pension scheme thay are not obliged to pay severance pay. I have read this in a Korean law book.

HOWEVER, it is very much standard that both pension and severance are part of teaching contracts over here.

Also, they are not obliged to provide return airfares but I have never heard of a full time hagwon or public school job not offering this incentive.

Suggest you tell them to review the contract in these regards
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spliff



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you decide to pull the trigger on this position just remember you'll be losing about 3 - 4 mill. Exclamation
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My uni doesn't offer severance or flight ticket. Not even for Japan visa runs back before rule changes.
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Omkara



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it, "pull the trigger!"

Thanks for the info.

They ask two years, but have said outright that they do not give a return ticket or a severance; but they do pay a pension.

The advantages: a uni schedule, paid vacation, uni students, good co-workers.

Disadvantages: two years, no severance, lower base-pay, no return ticket.

Yet, with no severance or return ticket, what's the incentive of a full two years save a good working environment?

Question: Do any of you think that having a university's name on your resume is worth much? Say, 3-4 mill?
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Omkara



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's right. I'd be responsible for my own visa. . .travel and all.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a Hongdae job.
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Omkara



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Sounds like a Hongdae job.


What is this? A university? Or a code-name for a kind of job?
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spliff



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hongdae means "hand" in Korean. Very Happy
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Omkara



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh. . .too bad it isn't "pul-ta"! I'd sign my name yesterday!
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiwiana wrote:
The law states that if an employer pays into an pension scheme thay are not obliged to pay severance pay. I have read this in a Korean law book.

HOWEVER, it is very much standard that both pension and severance are part of teaching contracts over here.

Also, they are not obliged to provide return airfares but I have never heard of a full time hagwon or public school job not offering this incentive.

Suggest you tell them to review the contract in these regards


This is NOT QUITE ACCURATE.

IF they (private university) subscribe to a private pension plan they are NOT required to provide severance BUT the pension plan subscribed to must provide benefits equal to or greater than the combination of severance and public pension that would otherwise be required by law.

Airfare is a matter of negotiation.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omkara wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
Sounds like a Hongdae job.


What is this? A university? Or a code-name for a kind of job?


Hongdae = Hongik University in Seoul.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiwiana wrote:
The law states that if an employer pays into an pension scheme thay are not obliged to pay severance pay. I have read this in a Korean law book.

Find a new law book.

Any employer paying into the NATIONAL (not private) pension scheme must also pay severance. Straight from the horses' mouths at the Pension office in Jamsil.

As ttompatz said, PRIVATE pension schemes are a different animal.
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971menu



Joined: 11 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: How many universities out of ten DO offer some kind of air? Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
My uni doesn't offer severance or flight ticket. Not even for Japan visa runs back before rule changes.


How common is this? And does your salary balance, say, working somewhere else for a little less but getting the airfare and severance?

I've just landed my first uni job, and it also offers no airfare of any kind, or severance, so I'm curious about this.
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