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cj1976
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 Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: Teaching in Australia |
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A friend of mine recently moved to Oz to study for the PGCE with the intention of living and working there afterwards. I've considered teaching but the idea of doing it in chavtastic England is not at all appealing to me; low pay, delinquent socially challenged kids (and parents), bad food, bad weather etc.
Anyone know how Oz would compare? |
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AussieGav
Joined: 02 Sep 2007
Location: Uijeongbu
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Iguess your not talking about teaching English lol
You would need to qualify for the appropriate work visa, which is not always that difficult depending on your nationality.
Australia is gernally a cool place to work and live. But we certainly have our fair share of bratty kids and delinquents.
Contact the Aussie embassey in Seoul and talk to them about visa options.
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mnhnhyouh
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching in Australia |
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| cj1976 wrote: |
A friend of mine recently moved to Oz to study for the PGCE with the intention of living and working there afterwards. I've considered teaching but the idea of doing it in chavtastic England is not at all appealing to me; low pay, delinquent socially challenged kids (and parents), bad food, bad weather etc.
Anyone know how Oz would compare? |
I havent taught in England, but have taught math and science (and a couple of other subjects) in Australia for two years.
You will find delinquent socially challenged kids (and parents), bad food there, but you can also find good food. The pay is not bad, and, for much of the country, the weather is good.
The pay is not too bad at all.
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Stormy
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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A friend of mine went to teach for two years in the UK after a few years teaching at home (Australia) and she hated it. She said the kids were bratty, the school system indifferent, and generally found the whole experience to be very trying.
However she was mainly doing relief work which is a different kettle of fish to having your own class.
Personally my only knowledge of teaching in the UK comes from watching 'Teachers' on the ABC, and it's not appealing! 
Teaching in Aus is very pleasant where I work(ed) (up north) but I imagine an inner city school in Sydney or Melbourne would be just as trying as east London.....possibly. The weather however is beautiful, the beaches gorgeous, the food generally delicious and the pay is pretty good on the whole. There are certainly delinquent kids but where are there not? |
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Darkness
Joined: 12 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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What about a qualified English teacher from the US with 2yrs high school exp in US, 2 years Uni work in Korea, and a Masters in Teaching?
Would it be hard to find work? If the person was an Oz citizen... |
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mnhnhyouh
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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What about a qualified English teacher from the US with 2yrs high school exp in US, 2 years Uni work in Korea, and a Masters in Teaching?
Would it be hard to find work? If the person was an Oz citizen... |
It is a state based thing. You should contact each state's Education Department. IIRC the average age of Australian teachers is in the mid to late 40s, and they are expecting half their teachers to retire over the next 5 years... lots of job opportunities....
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Darkness
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| That was the apparent case in Canada too...but from what I hear, it's not so. |
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Stormy
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Finding work would certainly not be a problem...there is a shortage of teachers in Aus, especially up north. They are absolutely gagging for reliable relief teachers up there & are also short of general classroom teachers - lots of money to be made in relief. Also money to be made working on Indigenous communities. If I wasn't in Korea that's where I'd be. Pretty similar lifestyle to Korea in many ways too (being isolated, an outsider & so on).
In Darwin there's also work around for ESL teachers, there are lots of ESL immigrants & lately lots of refugeees from the Sudan & other African countries.
So the work is there, not sure about work visas etc. However if you're an Aus citizen it shouldn't be a problem. |
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Darkness
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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What about in and around Adelaide? I'm planning on going back to school and the g/f is the "real" teacher  |
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mnhnhyouh
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| What about in and around Adelaide? I'm planning on going back to school and the g/f is the "real" teacher |
I really like Adelaide. A nice clean, well laid out city that has good facilities. However, like most places, there are areas that have problems, and some of them are bad. Not sure how the appointment system works, so you might be put in a school with some problems.
I have only taught in one school, and it wasnt a bad one, but did have a number of problem students. The staff there told me that most schools that have lots of discipline problems have very supportive staff environments, while those with few can be very difficult to work in.
Given good support, I dont mind difficult teaching. In my second year I was given the difficult boys program. Classes were small, up to 7 students, but not easy. I saw these guys every day. They accounted for 1/4 of my teaching workload. There was one day when none of them were there because for various reasons they had all been suspended.
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Cheonmunka
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That's great about Aussie. I have more family there than NZ. Glad to hear there are opportunities there. I had always thought that there were few because unemployment is on the high side and teachers are reasonably well paid.
I wonder if my wife and kids would like Darwin?
Adelaide is a little boring. Melbourne is gray. Sydney is expensive. Nth Queensland coast? Mmmm. |
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