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Masters by 2009--Are they serious?
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Sadebugo1



Joined: 11 May 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:04 pm    Post subject: Masters by 2009--Are they serious? Reply with quote

Maybe this has been discussed before. I just read an article on the EL Gazette Online about a proposal for all native speakers to have an MA or better by 2009 in order to teach languages. Lee Ju-Ho, the head of the president's education policy team, is the individual who proposed this and legislation is being considered. Does anyone believe this will fly and even if it did, wouldn't this create a supply problem for teachers in Korea?

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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this was the case, there would be nobody teaching here. They don't pay enough to attract those with MAs here.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The same presidential transition team that wanted the Korean language to be taught in English to all Korean school kids by 2010? Relax, it's just electioneering.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are 30,000 job openings a year for ESL teachers and 20,000 teachers. Cut out all those how don't have a Masters degree. Sound reasonable?
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An MA for native speakers vs. an afternoon skimming a poorly written "English" book for Korean English teachers. Sounds fair to me.
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Provided they adjusted the pay scale accordingly, and had a bit of common sense about it (e.g. considering people with B.Eds or PGCE or a relevant degree), it sounds like a great idea.
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last week they were saying they were going to allow people with associate (2year) degrees to teach. Also, didn't they say they would encourage undergraduate students of Korean heritage or majoring in Asian studies to teach in rural areas. Now they are saying everyone must have a Masters degree.

Next month, they'll be talking about allowing High school graduates to teach on the one hand, while having a plan to hire only teachers with a pHD to teach by 2010.

What happened to the plan to open up the e-2 visa to other countries (India, The Phillipines etc)?

I get the feeling that the education ministry is pretty clueless, and every month they throw out a few ideas and are waiting for the public to give them direction.

An MA degree to work in a public elementary school as a English teaching assistant, the word "overqualified" comes to mind.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hank the Iconoclast wrote:
If this was the case, there would be nobody teaching here. They don't pay enough to attract those with MAs here.


They attracted me. And as someone who spend 10 years as a career student wracking up credits and degrees that would be useless in most countries, let me say what a fine idea I think this is.

At any rate, when one week it looks like any Filipino who can convince a Korean official he speaks English can get a job, and the next you need an MA, I'd say just sit tight.
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Trespasser



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: "scholarship" Reply with quote

I highly doubt it. Check it out this link: http://talk.mest.go.kr/


What is the program about?

The 'TaLK' program invites undergraduate students to 'Teach English on Korean Government Scholarship'. The program is sponsored by the Korean Ministry of Education, Science and Technology. Participants will teach English in after-school classes of Korean elementary schools at rural areas.

Term Teaching activities last for six months or one year, starting July 2008.


Who can apply?

Those who fulfill the following requirements are eligible :

1. Overseas Korean residents or English native speakers
2. Undergraduate students who have completed two or more years of university education


How do students participate?

Over a 4~6 week orientation program prior to the official term of teaching, participants will get an opportunity to learn about Korea and acquire basic teaching skills.
An orientation program include Understanding Korea, Life in Korea, English teaching methodology, Classroom management, etc.
If necessary, additional training courses will be available.

Participants will teach practical English (speaking, listening, and writing) in after-school classes of elementary schools at rural areas, by forming one-to-one working partnerships with selected Korean participants.

Participants will teach 15 hours per week from Monday to Friday (5 days a week/ 3 hours per day) and are not required to work on Saturdays, Sundays and national holidays of the Republic of Korea.


What are the program's benefits?

This is a fabulous opportunity for undergraduate students to experience and understand Korea, while teaching English to Korean students who seek greater exposure to the language.

Round-trip airfare
Return tickets will not be provided for unfulfilled contract terms

Accommodation Home stay or personal accommodation

Allowance Approximately 1.5 million Korean won [about 1.550 USD] per month

Opportunities for new cultural experiences and Korean language acquisition
Using the weekends and other free time, participants may enjoy cultural experience programs including travel, traditional Korean arts and music, etc

Pride of being a Korean Government Scholar
A 'Korean Government Scholarship' certificate will be presented to each participant

Unique addition to students' career development
The program offers an invaluable career experience and improves the participants' CV

Establishing an alumni network
With fellow participants, more visits and invitations will be made to Korea for further exchanges
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yeremy



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: Anywhere's there's a good bookstore.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: Don't hold your breath Reply with quote

In theory and practice, it is the standard in the US but they'll have trouble instituting it right away. If the Korean government starts this even in 2009, it could easily decimate the EFL industry in Korea because they're really having trouble in hiring now. Don't hold your breath. Wait and see. There are some merits to it, but it is probably too early.
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going to start my MA in 2009 and I am getting married to my Korean fiance this August. I would say it would be bad for a lot of us here if they all of a sudden say that our BA and other qualifications aren't sufficient.

It's good for the MA holders. Of course, those who have a MA will fail to sympathize with those that don't. It's a rather big decision to your MA in TESOL.
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meangradin



Joined: 10 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the op is refering to previous comments that University teachers must have a Masters Degree in the future. There was no mention of PS or hogwon teachers being required to have these standards.
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Bryan



Joined: 29 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

indytrucks wrote:
Provided they adjusted the pay scale accordingly, and had a bit of common sense about it (e.g. considering people with B.Eds or PGCE or a relevant degree), it sounds like a great idea.


Yeah it sounds like a great idea to prolong Korea's lag in English speaking ability for another 100 years. Korea needs a free influx of English speaking people to enter the country, not a restriction on them.

People who want to hire a teacher with a BA, or LESS, should be able to. The government should not step in their way. It is THEIR education and THEIR life.
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aarontendo



Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finish my MA at the end of 2009. Bring it on!
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't hold your breath Reply with quote

yeremy wrote:
In theory and practice, it is the standard in the US but they'll have trouble instituting it right away.


What?
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