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		| mindmetoo 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:22 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | did anyone else notice the sharons werent cgi'ed, but instead played by different actresses? |  
 Neh? I'll have to check that out when I watch it again. I usually give each ep 2 or 3 viewings. I liked how that cylon guarding the hybrid was looking pretty bad. Not the shiny toaster.
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		| Gopher 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | mindmetoo wrote: |  
	  | I liked how that cylon guarding the hybrid was looking pretty bad. Not the shiny toaster. |  
 I will watch it again and look for that.
 
 What is your take on the hybrids' message about Starbuck and her destiny?
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		| mindmetoo 
 
 
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		| mindmetoo 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | mindmetoo wrote: |  
	  | I liked how that cylon guarding the hybrid was looking pretty bad. Not the shiny toaster. |  
 I will watch it again and look for that.
 
 What is your take on the hybrids' message about Starbuck and her destiny?
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 The guy who plays Adama was quoted in the news as saying "we have to consider the series ending up without them making it." It might be a big red herring. RDM likes to do that.
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				|  Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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		| OneWayTraffic 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | crash bang wrote: |  
	  | did anyone else notice the sharons werent cgi'ed, but instead played by different actresses? |  
 No they do those shots by camera trickery and shooting it several times. It's all Grace Park, except maybe a background character or two. RDM goes into a bit of detail in one of the podcasts from season 3 (When they're all in Colonial 1.) and Cap6 gets shot by Doral.
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		| OneWayTraffic 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I really liked this episode. The scene with Athena facing off the eights was great: it showed just how far she's come. RDM stated previously that when she was willing to help kill her whole race, because she'd made her decision and oath that it was basically a oneway street for the character: he didn't think it possible to take something like that back. And it shows in the way she's been written since. 
 Mary McDonnell was incredible this ep. Such a good actress. And the scenes of her with Nana Visitor of DS9 were very powerful.
 
 The scene with Natile and the six who was killed on NewCaprica (not a significant character, just a six.) was so good that I even forgave them the obvious plot device of having a very minor character come along for the ride.
 
 My guess for the direction where the plot is going is that somehow Boomer is going to be in a critical position. Her character is still unredeemed, and it's just too tempting a story point for a good writer to overlook. She's in with the Cavils in the other basestars so it's all set up.
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		| crash bang 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:23 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| the one who shot the platinum blond Six I think was the chick who was over on the Pegasus and was raped like crazy and then nuked Cloud 9. 
 the pegasus 6 (gina) died when she nuked cloud 9
 
 
 
 No they do those shots by camera trickery and shooting it several times. It's all Grace Park, except maybe a background character or two
 
 all the other episodes, yes, but i disagree about this episode. i was immediately struck by how the 2 that had speaking roles were very similar, but not exactly like grace park (one had just a slightly fatter face). i was also struck by how much more realistic the interaction was. i dont care how good f/x get, there always seems to be something a little canned when 1 actor/actress is doing both sides of a conversation. it didnt seem at all canned in their scene
 
 besides, she's korean. we all know they all look alike,  right?
 
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		| mindmetoo 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:58 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | OneWayTraffic wrote: |  
	  | IMary McDonnell was incredible this ep. Such a good actress. And the scenes of her with Nana Visitor of DS9 were very powerful. |  
 Still that bald cap didn't work for me. RDM said on one of the podcasts that he'd never use a fake beard, as they just don't look real. (One ep Baltar cut off his beard and they needed him for a flash back to the time when he had a beard.) I think he should have extended that rule to bald caps never work.
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		| OneWayTraffic 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:22 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | OneWayTraffic wrote: |  
	  | IMary McDonnell was incredible this ep. Such a good actress. And the scenes of her with Nana Visitor of DS9 were very powerful. |  
 Still that bald cap didn't work for me. RDM said on one of the podcasts that he'd never use a fake beard, as they just don't look real. (One ep Baltar cut off his beard and they needed him for a flash back to the time when he had a beard.) I think he should have extended that rule to bald caps never work.
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 I'd prefer the fake beard to the Chief shaving and moisturizing between getting news of Callies execution and going to save her. RDM admitted that possible loophole, but IIRC there was a small out, so he opted for that over a falsie.
 
 I think the bald cap is why they had her in a scarf after the first scene. I don't think it would be practical to shave off Roslins hair, at least not all of it. Probably shooting schedules interfering with the timeline of the story.
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				|  Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:27 am    Post subject: |   |  
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 all the other episodes, yes, but i disagree about this episode. i was immediately struck by how the 2 that had speaking roles were very similar, but not exactly like grace park (one had just a slightly fatter face). i was also struck by how much more realistic the interaction was. i dont care how good f/x get, there always seems to be something a little canned when 1 actor/actress is doing both sides of a conversation. it didnt seem at all canned in their scene
 
 besides, she's korean. we all know they all look alike,  right?
 
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 Looked like the same woman to me. I'd put the reality down to better shooting and acting than before. Grace Park is streets ahead of where she was in the first season.
 
 The burden of proof is on you I'd say.
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		| travel zen 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:40 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| A very good episode !!! 
 Mary McDowell has got those BIG eyes, very attractive face with the bald cap !
   
 Adama is acting a little old and pushed around.  Not at all like the first season.  They should give him a better script soon.
 
 If Kara will lead them all to their end, then who will lead them to safety?
 
 If a cylon came from earth to lead humanity back to earth, then is there any real humanity left ?
 
 What happens with the Calvins?  Don't they have about a million base stars on the hunt ?
 
 Very interesting again
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		| crash bang 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| he burden of proof is on you I'd say. 
 i dont really care to convince you or not. to me, they looked like different women. maybe they were, maybe they werent. i would be really interested in hearing a definitive answer from the producers
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		| skconqueror 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | mindmetoo wrote: |  
	  | I usually give each ep 2 or 3 viewings. |  
 Besides watch BSG multiple times.. posting here 20+ times a day you have time for anything else in your busy life?
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