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ytuque

Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Location: I drink therefore I am!
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject: Exchanged Won to Dollars today at 1061 won to $1! |
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Holy snot rockets! The Korean won has as much support as an 80 year old ex-stripper. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:29 am Post subject: Re: Exchanged Won to Dollars today at 1061 won to $1! |
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ytuque wrote: |
Holy snot rockets! The Korean won has as much support as an 80 year old ex-stripper. |
It wasn't that long ago that you needed 1250 won to get a dollar.
1061 is still not that bad. |
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ytuque

Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Location: I drink therefore I am!
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:04 am Post subject: |
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That was a rapid 10% decline in won-dollar. |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:23 am Post subject: |
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Frankly, when I get my next paycheck I am going to wire home money ASAP. I expect the won to decline even further. They are going to have to raise salaries for sure if the won has declined and the regulations are more of a headache. |
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ytuque

Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Location: I drink therefore I am!
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:46 am Post subject: |
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Did salaries increase during previous bouts of won weakness? I haven't noticed salaries increasing on job posting here. |
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Grab the Chickens Levi

Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Location: Ilsan
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:52 am Post subject: |
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ytuque wrote: |
Did salaries increase during previous bouts of won weakness? I haven't noticed salaries increasing on job posting here. |
1. Salaries may look like they''re going up - but jobs ads that say
'up to 3 million WON!!!!! APPLY NOW!!!!
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2million - 3 million Won in wonderful Korea!!!!
REALLY mean 2.2 mil won lol....
2. Salaries for Hakwan jobs did rise from an average 2mil per month to the norm of 2.1 / 2.2 a year ago due to the new competition due to all public schools hiring native teachers.
3. I think the new visa regs have forced some schools to raise salaries as they are having really tough times finding people....
Never really heard of salaries rising due to change in exchange rates but I can understand one would expect that to happen. |
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rsmm0224
Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Location: Changwon
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:59 am Post subject: |
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I would be surprised if they raised salaries, 2.0-2.3m is still a decent wage here. They're not paying you based on the economic condition of another country. But I'm no expert, just saying I would be surprised.
Besides...
I think of far more greater concern is what does Korea's future hold? America is a prime example that prosperity doesn't last forever. Koreans all drive new cars, wear flashy clothes and I may not be able to understand Korean but I know what the hell 35% means when I see it flash by on the small print of a credit card commercial.
I don't know actual figures and so will refrain from saying "most" but America buys a WHOLE FREAKING LOT of Korea's products. How many Hyundai cars go over each year? How many LG TVs? How many Samsung phones? If America is in a recession, then Korea WILL start to feel it. Hell, gimbop is already up 500 won!
Someone with more experience in international economics please let me know if I'm talking out my ass here. But I think Korea is in for some very hard times of its own in the not too distant future. |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:09 am Post subject: |
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With a combination of a drop in the won and the regulations, it would make sense for some increase even if it is not much. They can't completely ignore the ideas of supply and demand. If the demand is still high, but the offer is less attractive less people will want to come, because the opportunity cost increases. I can't believe I remembered my economics courses. A 10% decrease in the currency's value and more than a 25% increase in time to do everything should translate at least to a modest increase. If it requires the same amount of paperwork to go to a hagwon as a public school, this will help the public sector. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Exchanged Won to Dollars today at 1061 won to $1! |
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ttompatz wrote: |
ytuque wrote: |
Holy snot rockets! The Korean won has as much support as an 80 year old ex-stripper. |
It wasn't that long ago that you needed 1250 won to get a dollar.
1061 is still not that bad. |
Talking American dollars, things have been worse. Talking Canadian dollars, things are getting about a bad as they've ever been. Even during the financial crisis in Asia the C-dollar was about 1200-1300. I'd say 1060 sucks. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Exchanged Won to Dollars today at 1061 won to $1! |
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marlow wrote: |
ttompatz wrote: |
ytuque wrote: |
Holy snot rockets! The Korean won has as much support as an 80 year old ex-stripper. |
It wasn't that long ago that you needed 1250 won to get a dollar.
1061 is still not that bad. |
Talking American dollars, things have been worse. Talking Canadian dollars, things are getting about a bad as they've ever been. Even during the financial crisis in Asia the C-dollar was about 1200-1300. I'd say 1060 sucks. |
I think you have it backwards.
A few short years ago you (or at least I) bought CDN dollars for about 800 won each (and it cost me $1.20 to buy chunwon) so my 2 mil salary got me about $2500 CAD. It also cost me about 1250 won to buy $1 US (2 mil + $1600US.)
Now you need 1060 won to buy a dollar. Your 2 mil salary is worth about $1890 CAD (a loss of about 24% on a 2 mil salary)
At 1300 won to buy a loonie it would have meant a loss of ~40% of your paycheck (2 mil =$1538CAD).
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justaguy
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Location: seoul
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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I've been able to compensate for the difference by drinking less whiskey and drinking more soju. |
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kimchipig
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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The law of supply and demand is indeed in play. There are scads of illegal "teachers" working for less than they should. There are probably more illegals than legals. I recently read in the Korea Lies, oops Times, that there were 27,000 E-2 visa holders and at least double that amount of illegals. This compares to 49,000 E-2 visas at the peak in 1996 when exchange rates were very good indeed.
Added to this is that the Korean government is talking about lowering standards even more. Fact is, Korea is not the place to be anymore; other places have passed it, especially China. Salaries are not matching Korean inflation by a long shot, let alone exchange rates.
So, for your big $2,000 a month, less utilities and maintenance fee, you get to live in a polluted place where the population collectively hates you.
But if I were there, I would be trying to justify it, too. |
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mnhnhyouh

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Location: The Middle Kingdom
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, a whole page with nobody saying that paying more won per dollar means the won is going up....
Maybe Daves is Sparkling.
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Exchanged Won to Dollars today at 1061 won to $1! |
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ttompatz wrote: |
marlow wrote: |
ttompatz wrote: |
ytuque wrote: |
Holy snot rockets! The Korean won has as much support as an 80 year old ex-stripper. |
It wasn't that long ago that you needed 1250 won to get a dollar.
1061 is still not that bad. |
Talking American dollars, things have been worse. Talking Canadian dollars, things are getting about a bad as they've ever been. Even during the financial crisis in Asia the C-dollar was about 1200-1300. I'd say 1060 sucks. |
I think you have it backwards.
A few short years ago you (or at least I) bought CDN dollars for about 800 won each (and it cost me $1.20 to buy chunwon) so my 2 mil salary got me about $2500 CAD. It also cost me about 1250 won to buy $1 US (2 mil + $1600US.)
Now you need 1060 won to buy a dollar. Your 2 mil salary is worth about $1890 CAD (a loss of about 24% on a 2 mil salary)
At 1300 won to buy a loonie it would have meant a loss of ~40% of your paycheck (2 mil =$1538CAD).
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No, I'm saying that 1060 is not far from 1200, which was considered a total crash of the Korean won. Know anyone who decided to come to Korea in January 1998? Know anyone coming now?
For Americans it's not so comparable, because during '97-'98 it was like 1700, and now it's about 1050. A much bigger spread. |
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cazzy3

Joined: 07 May 2008 Location: kangwon-do
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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let's be thankful we don't have to convert it to the euro or the pound...then we'd really be hurting. plus, the won is hurting against the dollar and the dollar is hurting against almost every other currency...not looking good.
**if you plan on traveling this summer, but your tickets ASAP because tix are gonna go through the roof this summer. |
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