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Korean, please explain

 
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Ed Provencher



Joined: 15 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:39 am    Post subject: Korean, please explain Reply with quote

I understand that 있자나 is used in the same way as 잠시만요 when you want to get someone's attention. You can even make it more formal by saying 있자나요. But I don't understand what it means when 있자나 comes at the end of a sentence. Can anyone explain?
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bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you confusing it with '있찮아'? that would mean 'it really is!'
as far as i know, person a could say '비빔밥 맛없어' and person b could disagree, saying '맛있찮아!'
if i misunderstood you, please disregard!
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mrgiles



Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think this is right, but cd be mistaken.

among friends, u can say "이잖아" when u're trying to bring something to their attention - kinda like saying "it's like this, right?" the u can put 잖아 at the end of a sentence to indicate that what u're saying is obvious, like
"왜 우산을 가지고 왔어? (why've u got an umbrella?)
비가 오고 있잖아! (it's raining. duh.)"
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

있자나 is kind of like saying "I have something to say" where 잠시만 is more like "wait a second"... Basically, sort of, maybe...

Sorry it's early morning. My brain isn't working particularly well.
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Ed Provencher



Joined: 15 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobbyhanlon wrote:
are you confusing it with '있찮아'? that would mean 'it really is!'
as far as i know, person a could say '비빔밥 맛없어' and person b could disagree, saying '맛있찮아!'
if i misunderstood you, please disregard!


I don't know the spelling, just the sound. So it looks like I was close, at least!

I have heard the phrase adds emphasis, as you pointed out. I think then that one could say 했찮아 to use it in the past form.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Provencher wrote:
bobbyhanlon wrote:
are you confusing it with '있찮아'? that would mean 'it really is!'
as far as i know, person a could say '비빔밥 맛없어' and person b could disagree, saying '맛있찮아!'
if i misunderstood you, please disregard!


I don't know the spelling, just the sound. So it looks like I was close, at least!

I have heard the phrase adds emphasis, as you pointed out. I think then that one could say 했찮아 to use it in the past form.


The past tense would probably be: 있잖았어
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mrgiles



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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah...depending on what verb you're using - if u're using 있다, it would be 있었잖아
"책은 거기서 있었잖아" would thus be rendered something like "the book was there, u dope," or "the book was there of course"

"얘기 했잖아" would mean "(don't u remember) i told u" something like that.
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