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HAHA! Hitchens schools a Christian (and expels a Muslim)
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:

You say I make assumptions?? And what would that be?
IM not that one saying god doesn�t exist! You are! That�s an assumption!
Perhaps you need to look up the word!!!

There you made it again. God you're thick Laughing

itaewonguy wrote:

This argument is not about my English skills


When you lack basic reading and writing skills it kind of stagnates the debate. My English ain't perfect either. If you have a learning disability I apologize for mocking you. That's not fair. Otherwise you are the biggest moron here.

itaewonguy wrote:
I knew all that stuff when I was 12 years old listening to my grandfather!

How old are you now, 13?

itaewonguy wrote:
I read between the lines!


You appear to read between the words too. It's best if you try to read first.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:
K, just admit it!! Your camp doesn�t have enough Evidence!!


Yawn.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL... you guys listen! Why don�t just one of you! JUST ONE!
Get on national Television, write a best seller or write to a science journal and speak up!! It�s that simple!!!
You don�t have to spend hours trying to convince a few people on Daves
If you guys are so sure about something all you have do is prove it!

So run along now and prove to the world how right you are...

I�ll be here waiting...


I mean you do have the evidence don�t you? So stop talking about it...
Man up and present your case... 5 billion people in the world are waiting for it... if ED or mind me too has cracked the greatest mystery of all... you owe it to science and religion to come forward with the evidence..


Oh and ED,
dream on! you dont have a clue what you are talking about!
mindmetoo wrote:


Yawn.


I know that�s how I feel everytime you post everyything but your evidence!
How long do I have to wait?
Rolling Eyes

Oh that�s right! You have nothing! You are just regurgitating every science journal you have read! Don�t worry maybe one day some scientist will come closer to your dream for you and then you can plagiarize his comments here... Wink

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There you made it again. God you're thick Laughing

Do you believe god exists? YES OR NO!
yes I am assuming you believe god to not exist! is this a fair call?

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You appear to read between the words too. It's best if you try to read first.

Do you actually have a point!?
You, mind me too, and every other atheist extremist on here don�t have a point! All you guys want to do is BASH everyone who doesn�t agree with you... all I am saying is, the atheist VS Theist debate has been bashed to death, you idiots are not presenting anything new! So as of 2008 all the scientists and religious folk have already debated this to death...
So you morons are not presenting anything new! You guys are not even scientists! You are just ESL teachers in Korea! So perhaps when one of you holds a PHD in Physics or some related field then you might have a leg to stand on...
You want to mock me, tell me I know nothing! WHY? Because I keep pushing you guys into a corner to present something you guys can�t!
Yeah that makes sense! Ok keep calling me stupid and uneducated! And whatever! Yes you guys are all right! There is no god! Of course there isn�t!
And every Atheist can prove this. Yes the world is blind and stupid!
Athiests are on a quest to prove to the whole world that god is a delusion!
of course trying to prove it without evidence! Rolling Eyes
charles manson! want to join a CULT??
jesssuuussss listen to yourselves!!

pastis wrote:



The fact that I am more knowlegable than well over 5 billion people (not to mention around 5 billion times smarter than you) makes me dumb? No. It doesn't.




IM sorry but you are not more Knowledgeable than 5 billion people~!
first of all you need to know how to spell the word Knowledgeable first DIPCHIT! You really are not even close! You are just consumed by your own arrogance and personal beliefs! Too bad you are too conceited to see that!
I know everything you know! There is nothing you, mind me too, or ED or any scientist knows that I don�t! Ohh PASTIS! When you actually have a real job! A car! And own your own home then you can try to talk about superiority! But while you teach kindy! Live in a one room! And drink soju PLEAAASSEE don�t even try to sound superior! You are a just a loser!!
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:

Oh and ED,
dream on! you dont have a clue what you are talking about!


I think I do.

itaewonguy wrote:
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There you made it again. God you're thick Laughing

Do you believe god exists? YES OR NO!
yes I am assuming you believe god to not exist! is this a fair call?


No, it is not a fair call. You don't know the difference between believing there is no god due to a lack of evidence and saying god doesn't exist?

itaewonguy wrote:
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You appear to read between the words too. It's best if you try to read first.

Do you actually have a point!?

Yes, you need help. You need to learn to read and to also to be less socially maladjusted, so you can make a friend some day.


itaewonguy wrote:
I know everything you know! There is nothing you, mind me too, or ED or any scientist knows that I don�t!


English?
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:

...
Do you believe god exists? YES OR NO!
...


What about yourself?
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enns



Joined: 02 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itaewon, you sound so angry on this thread. Throwing insults around, calling those who differ from you "extremists". It's difficult to read such negativity in your posts. I'm assuming you're not a Christian(though I haven't read the plurality of your comments), as a Christian would never be attacking others with such vile language as you have.

You criticize others for spelling mistakes while you yourself commit more than most in this thread. Your knowledge is also suspect. By "Jerry orsten" do you mean Joel Olsteen?

Atheists, and agnostics, envision a world based on logic and reason. They see this impeded by religion, if not impossible. They see technological and social progress hindered by religious doctrine, as many of faith use the Bible to object to advances in medicine and human rights. More than anything, they fear global destruction due to religious tension between Muslims and Christians.

Yes, Hitchens and crew are brash in their approach, but that's due to years of frustration and an inability to break through into the mainstream.

I think a good book for you would be A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle, which essentially goes beyond religion and into something deeper.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

enns wrote:


Atheists, and agnostics, envision a world based on logic and reason. They see this impeded by religion, if not impossible. They see technological and social progress hindered by religious doctrine, as many of faith use the Bible to object to advances in medicine and human rights. More than anything, they fear global destruction due to religious tension between Muslims and Christians.

Yes, Hitchens and crew are brash in their approach, but that's due to years of frustration and an inability to break through into the mainstream.


You don't speak for all atheists and agnostics. Yes, logic and reason are indispensible, but which religions impede these forces and when? Religion can be and often is another vessel through which reason is brought to us.

Hitchens and crew are alternately and sometimes simultaneously idiotic and bombastic in their approach. They can't solve any problems, except how to put money in their own pockets.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahahhhahahaahah Laughing Laughing Laughing

have another drink!
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pastis



Joined: 20 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:
hahahhhahahaahah Laughing Laughing Laughing

have another drink!

In other words: I win.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pastis wrote:
itaewonguy wrote:
hahahhhahahaahah Laughing Laughing Laughing

have another drink!

In other words: I win.


when you can show substantial evidence of god not playing a role in the universe! then you can claim victory! and win a nobel! and have your name written in every science book in every language and be the most famous man in the world and leave darwin blowing in the wind!

until then sonny jim! you are nothing more than a crack addict!!
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talk about beating a dead horse..
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:
pastis wrote:
itaewonguy wrote:
hahahhhahahaahah Laughing Laughing Laughing

have another drink!

In other words: I win.


when you can show substantial evidence of god not playing a role in the universe! then you can claim victory! and win a nobel! and have your name written in every science book in every language and be the most famous man in the world and leave darwin blowing in the wind!

until then sonny jim! you are nothing more than a crack addict!!


No. He won. You lost another one.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I-Guy, you got it handed to you in this one. Read back through and it might dawn on you why that is.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The two sides are talking over each others heads once again.

What Itaewonguy is actually talking about (I can understand itaewonguyish as well as English) is not burden of proof, but a powerful enough argument to convince theists once and for all that they are in the wrong, something completely irrefutable. Something along the lines of a showstopper like 'This is gravity. This is how it works, and I can demonstrate it to you a million times right now if you'd like. You can't argue against it.'
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blurgalurgalurga



Joined: 18 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think everybody needs to man up and make this debate more manly. Man up! Man up! Man up! Man up! Man up! Manupmanupmanup! Man up, man, man up.
Man up! Man up!
Man up man up manupmanupamanupamanupaman man man up up man man up man up man up man up.
Hmmm...manupmanupmanupumpapamaumau manumanupowpow.
Umpapa mau mau.
I think I've sufficiently stated my case. I am obviously intelligenter and manlier than all of you, as I have now manned up.
Man up!

The scary thing is, the above message is not actually the stupidest thing in the thread.
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