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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject: How does EPIK calculate provincial pay? |
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From the EPIK website....
"Province.
$2,500-$2,800 (2.4-2.65million KRW)
* The amount of provincial pay varies depending on the location within the POE and the number of schools taught at."
I think most rural people work at least two schools. I do. I know a couple of people who work at 3 schools. I know one guy who sees a different school almost every day of the month! 
So, I receive 2.2 and I work at two schools. How many school do you have to work at to receive the full 2.65?
Anybody receiving that much or know how it works? |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: How does EPIK calculate provincial pay? |
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| poet13 wrote: |
From the EPIK website....
"Province.
$2,500-$2,800 (2.4-2.65million KRW)
* The amount of provincial pay varies depending on the location within the POE and the number of schools taught at."
I think most rural people work at least two schools. I do. I know a couple of people who work at 3 schools. I know one guy who sees a different school almost every day of the month!
So, I receive 2.2 and I work at two schools. How many school do you have to work at to receive the full 2.65?
Anybody receiving that much or know how it works? |
You'd have to be level 1 = 2.4 million
Provincial allowance = 0.1 million
2 schools = 0.1 million
3rd school = 0.05 million
Thus, if you are level 1 "assistant" teacher teaching 3 schools, you qualify for 2.65 million. Also, if you stay with the same school or province for 2 years, you get 0.2 million bump on your third year (total 2.85 million). |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for that. Do you have a link for that? Is this new this year?
I'm wondering now if I've been shortchanged this past year.
Level 2+. 2 schools. 0.1 Rural bonus, but I'm receiving 2.2.
Shouldn't that be 2.3? level 2+ is a flat 2.2, and then on top of that the 2nd school bonus of 0.1. If so, I was shorted 100,000 a month for the past 10 months.
I will move to a level 1 this September....hopefully at my current school. They've been buggering about a bit with pension and stuff but I think we will get that sorted.
I received the re-up paper of intent today, so when the time comes for any negotiating, I want to know exactly what I should be getting. I would feel silly asking for something I was entitled to, thinking I was getting a perk...
The way I read your post, this fall I should receive as standard....
level 1.
2.3 (the website says 2.3 metro + .1 for rural)
0.1 rural bonus
0.1 for second school
=2.5.
I do intend to to ask for a more liberal leave time after classes this next year. My (foreign) wife is going to have a baby this fall, and unlike a Korean, we don't have a built-in support network of family. It means I want to be home as much as possible to do as much as possible for my family. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Although there is a standard EPIK pay scale, many rural PS FTs are being hired by local education offices rather than EPIK office or the provincial education office.
For this reason, anything goes. Otherwords, it appears that local education offices can create their own pay scale and/or bend the EPIK contract clauses as they please within certain limit which I don't really know.
When I applied for a PS job recently through several recruiters, I got tonnes of offers from EPIK through local education offices, but none of them (contracts) looked the same.
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aarontendo
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| As a side note, I thought i saw a document at my school that said level 1 is now 2.4 a month *instead of 2.3* anyone else confirm this? |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| aarontendo wrote: |
| As a side note, I thought i saw a document at my school that said level 1 is now 2.4 a month *instead of 2.3* anyone else confirm this? |
I concur! 2.4 is the new level 1 pay. |
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Hank the Iconoclast
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I teach at four schools. Exhausting and difficult to organize. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Hank the Iconoclast wrote: |
| I teach at four schools. Exhausting and difficult to organize. |
Congratulations! |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| poet13 wrote: |
Thank you for that. Do you have a link for that? Is this new this year?
I'm wondering now if I've been shortchanged this past year.
Level 2+. 2 schools. 0.1 Rural bonus, but I'm receiving 2.2.
Shouldn't that be 2.3? level 2+ is a flat 2.2, and then on top of that the 2nd school bonus of 0.1. If so, I was shorted 100,000 a month for the past 10 months.
I will move to a level 1 this September....hopefully at my current school. They've been buggering about a bit with pension and stuff but I think we will get that sorted.
I received the re-up paper of intent today, so when the time comes for any negotiating, I want to know exactly what I should be getting. I would feel silly asking for something I was entitled to, thinking I was getting a perk...
The way I read your post, this fall I should receive as standard....
level 1.
2.3 (the website says 2.3 metro + .1 for rural)
0.1 rural bonus
0.1 for second school
=2.5.
I do intend to to ask for a more liberal leave time after classes this next year. My (foreign) wife is going to have a baby this fall, and unlike a Korean, we don't have a built-in support network of family. It means I want to be home as much as possible to do as much as possible for my family. |
Not everyone gets the rural bonus. I get the 100 000 extra and I work in a small city of about 35 000 people, although all my schools are out in the rice fields. People like BS.Dos are in equally small cities but don't get the rural bonus. Why? No idea.
Poet13, you're the same level (2+) as me so the basic is 2.2. Add the 100 000 rural bonus and my three schools so renewing my contract got me a pay rise of only 50 000. If I only taught at 2 schools then I'd have got no payrise because my salary for my current contract was already at 2.4.
I helped my friend with her negotiating because her co-teaecher had no idea what to do. She is presently on 2.0 basic with the old style 300 000 rural/multiple school bonus. So 2.3. She was told by her co-teacher that she'd get no payrise as she was now a 2+ and that was only 2.3 (with rural bonus). Until I pointed out the multiple school thing (50 000 for each) She'll now get 2.4.
The bummer with her contract is that she does teachers classes which state in the contract ARE NOT considered extra workplaces. How crap is that? I'd have been ready to tell them to stick the teachers classes and swap them for a *paying* workplace, so as to get an increase. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Ramen wrote: |
| aarontendo wrote: |
| As a side note, I thought i saw a document at my school that said level 1 is now 2.4 a month *instead of 2.3* anyone else confirm this? |
I concur! 2.4 is the new level 1 pay. |
Level 1 is 2.4. Rural or Metropolitan....cause rural would another .1 making it 2.5...
This link to the EPIK website says that metro is 2.3, and rural 2.4.
http://www.epik.go.kr/sub-2/link_url.asp?ma_url=sub_3_1
It's up to date, cause the sample contract is dated March 1 2008 to Feb 28 2009.
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So in reading your post DomeVans, I think I got burned this past year for 1 million. That sucks, but I will use it at renegotiation. I don't have a of room to stand on principle, because my wife is going to give birth a week before I re-sign and we can't be bouncing around, but I will keep all in mind for next contract. After 3 years at the same school, I should be well established.
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Ramen wrote: |
| aarontendo wrote: |
| As a side note, I thought i saw a document at my school that said level 1 is now 2.4 a month *instead of 2.3* anyone else confirm this? |
I concur! 2.4 is the new level 1 pay. |
Both of you should learn to read. 
From the EPIK website:
Level 1 is: $2400 (W2.3 million). |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| Ramen wrote: |
| aarontendo wrote: |
| As a side note, I thought i saw a document at my school that said level 1 is now 2.4 a month *instead of 2.3* anyone else confirm this? |
I concur! 2.4 is the new level 1 pay. |
Both of you should learn to read.
From the EPIK website:
Level 1 is: $2400 (W2.3 million). |
You know how fast they update things in Korea.
Go ahead and continue to sign up for 2.3 million.  |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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"Although there is a standard EPIK pay scale, many rural PS FTs are being hired by local education offices rather than EPIK office or the provincial education office. "
Ramen. I believe you, but I do wonder why a local education office would shell out so much money "out of pocket" when they could get the money free and clear from the government. Is demand really that high? |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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So we can choose to get paid in $, huh? I'm telling my handlers to pay me in US$.  |
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