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"Paju English Village"- still worth a visit?
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: "Paju English Village"- still worth a visit? Reply with quote

So I'll be taking my 5th graders there next week for a look around.

Anyway I was really looking forward to showing them the famous dancing english clowns.

Does anyone still work there and can tell me what entertainments are on offer?
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See if you can actually find anyone who works there who speaks English-ee. I've been there three times with kindy field trips and genuine foreign English speakers are almost impossible to find. You can find plenty of Koreans and Russians.

Hey, don't forget to bring your wallet because you'll pay to get in and then to do ANYTHING. Prepare to be gouged. Example? It costs 10,000 won, per kid, to color for an hour.

Pack a lunch, too because the food is expensive and VERY Korean.

Have fun!
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alpope23



Joined: 15 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:

Pack a lunch, too because the food is expensive and VERY Korean.

Have fun!


Yes the food is very Korean. Confused

Like the pizza and sphagetti in the Italian place, the subs in the sandwich shop (turkey subs = Korean right?) the fish and chips and guiness in the pub sounds very Korean. I don't recall if Tom and Toms had half caf kimchi latte or not, but the hot chocolate was good.

wylies99 wrote:
Hey, don't forget to bring your wallet because you'll pay to get in and then to do ANYTHING.


Oh my goodness! The Government expects a return on its investment! Oh my!

Sounds like you didn't make it too far from the family mart soju rack right next to the main gate.

Plenty of English speaking too, just remember the native speakers are there working, so you have to do more than going in, sitting down and expecting it to be all lined up for you.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it's not worth it.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alpope23 wrote:
wylies99 wrote:

Pack a lunch, too because the food is expensive and VERY Korean.

Have fun!


Yes the food is very Korean. Confused

Like the pizza and sphagetti in the Italian place, the subs in the sandwich shop (turkey subs = Korean right?) the fish and chips and guiness in the pub sounds very Korean. I don't recall if Tom and Toms had half caf kimchi latte or not, but the hot chocolate was good.


Don't forget to pick up a Canadian bulgogi burger or saeyoo burger setuh served up by the lovely Russian staff at Canadian fast-food prices:

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alpope23



Joined: 15 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
alpope23 wrote:
wylies99 wrote:

Pack a lunch, too because the food is expensive and VERY Korean.

Have fun!


Yes the food is very Korean. Confused

Like the pizza and sphagetti in the Italian place, the subs in the sandwich shop (turkey subs = Korean right?) the fish and chips and guiness in the pub sounds very Korean. I don't recall if Tom and Toms had half caf kimchi latte or not, but the hot chocolate was good.


Don't forget to pick up a Canadian bulgogi burger or saeyoo burger setuh served up by the lovely Russian staff at Canadian fast-food prices:



Fail.
She's Romanian.
They do have bulgogi burgers, along with plain and cheese burgers, hot wings and fried chicken. McDonalds back home has oriental chicken salad. Does that make it a chinese restaurant?

I think I detect a note of jealousy.

Did she shoot you down when you asked her out? Laughing
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:



That is exactly what I imagined. 1 trophy caucasian frontperson per every 100 korean staff, with taste of the exotic limited to the only food non-koreans have been known to eat: burgers.

Still, at 10.000W per child per hour of coloring, somebody is raking it in.
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks so lame.








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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the place is failing and was a waste of millions of dollars. I don't have the old news link that confirmed this...sorry.
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Insidejohnmalkovich



Joined: 11 Jan 2008
Location: Pusan

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My students enjoyed the place immensely. The cost was borne by the school of course. We went to the "fun museum," which was a bunch of nifty gadgets with which to interact. We wandered the main street. Then we ate the kimbap we brought with us in the square by the fountain.
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KYC



Joined: 11 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My kids enjoyed it too. We even had lunch at their fancy restaurant...very Korean indeed. I only one "class" with my kids. They didn't know the answers so they kept turning around and asking me. The "native speaker" however was definitely Russian and had a very, very, heavy accent. I understood about 2% of what he was saying. Kinda funny when the kids asked me for the answers and I didn't know what the question was.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Burried way back in all the paperwork, you should be able to find the consulting and management companies paid by the government to get these places off the ground.

All the money to be made was made before the doors swung open. There was no heed paid to the employment conditions for foreign staff, the educational purpose, or potential difficulties. All the consulting and managment companies knew was that they were gouging huge amounts of cash off the capital investment, and that they had to get the doors open. In many cases, these companies were formed spontaneously because someone had a connection to someone in the government doling out the coin. Usually, the head of the consulting/managment company had no background in education or international management.

So these places are a joke. They can't recruit sufficient foreign staff, and they can't keep enough native speakers on staff; two huge management f.ups that should have been addressed even prior to beginning operations. Complaints cropped up from the get go, and now these 'villages' are the laughing stock of the foreign teaching community.

Ironically, they might stay afloat if fuel prices continue to jack up airline ticket prices. Still, you never know. Never underestimate Korean parents' ability and willingness to pay top buck for quality education for their kids.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Insidejohnmalkovich wrote:
My students enjoyed the place immensely. The cost was borne by the school of course. We went to the "fun museum," which was a bunch of nifty gadgets with which to interact. We wandered the main street. Then we ate the kimbap we brought with us in the square by the fountain.


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My kids enjoyed it too. We even had lunch at their fancy restaurant...very Korean indeed. I only one "class" with my kids. They didn't know the answers so they kept turning around and asking me. The "native speaker" however was definitely Russian and had a very, very, heavy accent. I understood about 2% of what he was saying. Kinda funny when the kids asked me for the answers and I didn't know what the question was.


So basically you two spend a day doing nothing that you couldn't have done somewhere else in Korea with your kids.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alpop23- Enjoying your stay at English Village? They are notorious for not honoring contracts for genuine native speakers. The Russians? Give them a bottle of vodka and a place to sleep, and they're happy.

We did have a couple of drunken Russian males hit on our female Korean teachers and beg our kindy kids for food from their Hello Kitty lunch boxes. Was that part of the tour or was that included with the price of admission?
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
They can't recruit sufficient foreign staff.


they seem to have a staff of about 15 westerners there now, with a few russians thrown in.

Although i'd say its a pretty boring day for the average native speaker, the kids enjoyed it.. the theater show especially. otherwise there were 2 clowns, an exercise class and so on.k-teachers enjoyed the english bookstore and gift shop.
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