Korean Job Discussion Forums

[Yu_Bum_suk]

I just did with a fairly good, grade 2 academic HS class. They definitely found if very difficult but they paid attention and tried much more than they usually would for something they find hard. Quite frankly I find it pretty damn hard to understand all of the words, and one blank I had forgotten what the missing word was and needed the help of a couple of the brighter kids who caught it because I didn't.

In any event, as the first major English hit by a Korean band it really goes over well and is a great example of how Koreans can use English. I'd strongly reccommend it.

[KYC]

if I ever use big bang in class, well...that's just asking for trouble. My students would go ape crazy and request it every time. Then again I'm teaching elementary..

[genezorm]

i checked out the song, it sounds good
bumsuck you should post your fill in the blank worksheet up on here

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[genezorm]

thanks, i will try it out. respect.

was your handout 4 pages long?

[ddeubel]

I like the song too but it isn't by far the first big "English" hit by a Korean band......there are a few others but also depends on what you define as a "hit".....

I'll make a karaoke of this for sure -- been busy with other stuff...

But YBS -- I'm not criticizing your teaching implicitly but you continue to use and translate everything little thing you give or do with students. You are reinforcing the grammar translation method which is very much discredited and it should be one of our big roles as teachers here to avoid such promotion. Might look good with your colleagues but that's about it. It is just an easy way to get through and deliver a lesson without having to think too much about how to do it in a whole language approach.

L1 shouldn't be used in this fashion -- that's my opinion. Others can scream about that but I stand by it.

DD
http://eflclassroom.ning.com

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[genezorm]

[Easter Clark]

IME with Korean ELLs, the Grammar-Translation Method seems to be what works best for them--at the lowest levels. When they have a substantial amount of vocabulary under their belt, then we can start moving towards CLT.

Plus, when I want to know what the words mean to a foreign song, I look up the translation. It may not be perfect but it does give me a better idea of how the language works.

I just did Rihanna's "Shut Up and Drive" and while it proved to be too difficult for most of my students, having the translation at least kept them interested. fwiw, that would be a great song to do with Academic HS students...just not Tech HS students unless they're especially keen.

This song does look too hard for my classes, but I may use it for the Academic students during summer camp. Thanks, YBs!

[ddeubel]

Well we can agree to disagree about the use of Korean in this context.....

But I'm for anything like this that motivates -- just like genezorm states.....

Here is the youtube version of the song I whipped up. Get the karaoke version (which you can slow down a little for better understanding) on EFL Classroom 2.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2w_9M0HCg4

DD
http://eflclassroom.ning.com

[daz1979]

What are you guys using for translating the songs???

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[daz1979]

[ddeubel]

I've added quite a few songs to my Korean playlist.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6B1437824180D729&page=4

Here's the newest of Big Bang, just out on a mini album in Japan.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=cCLosQ2E4cQ

I use http://aheeyah.com/ for translations in most cases. Great place to keep up with Korean pop and I've even met a few of the contributors through email who've helped with translations. But my better half is first as a go to......

DD
http://eflclassroom.ning.com