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Ed Provencher



Joined: 15 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Drive-by English Reply with quote

Drive-by English can be annoying to me sometimes. I'm more accepting of children who do it than I am of teenagers. I think teenagers should understand that shouting "Hello!", "Hi!", "How are you?!" maybe followed by a giggle as I walk/ride my bike past them is not going to help their conversational skills.

I could be way off on this one. Is it simply their way of being courteous to foreigners?

For those of you who lived in a different foreign country, did the people there also use drive-by English?
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wayfarer



Joined: 05 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Drive-by English Reply with quote

Ed Provencher wrote:
Drive-by English can be annoying to me sometimes. I'm more accepting of children who do it than I am of teenagers. I think teenagers should understand that shouting "Hello!", "Hi!", "How are you?!" maybe followed by a giggle as I walk/ride my bike past them is not going to help their conversational skills.

I could be way off on this one. Is it simply their way of being courteous to foreigners?

For those of you who lived in a different foreign country, did the people there also use drive-by English?


It sometimes seems to have a slightly hostile edge to it.

But I think they're just being teenagers. They're not trying to be courteous and they're definitely not trying to practice their English.
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kiwiduncan



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's better than the "*beep* off gook!" that so many Koreans, Chinese, Thais and others experience in New Zealand.

One young Asian student was even pinned between a fence and a car driven by a couple of white trash rednecks in sunny little provincial Nelson a couple of days ago.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Drive-by English Reply with quote

wayfarer wrote:
Ed Provencher wrote:
Drive-by English can be annoying to me sometimes. I'm more accepting of children who do it than I am of teenagers. I think teenagers should understand that shouting "Hello!", "Hi!", "How are you?!" maybe followed by a giggle as I walk/ride my bike past them is not going to help their conversational skills.

I could be way off on this one. Is it simply their way of being courteous to foreigners?

For those of you who lived in a different foreign country, did the people there also use drive-by English?


It sometimes seems to have a slightly hostile edge to it.
But I think they're just being teenagers. They're not trying to be courteous and they're definitely not trying to practice their English.


It doesn't bother me at all. The reason why it bothers some foreigners is because many North Americans are used to having a lot of personal space which is not really part of Korean culture. The kids find it exciting sometimes to say anything to a foreigner whether you are a foreigner in Egypt, Korea, or Mexico. What's the big deal, guys? There are no bad intentions there. It is not like what our blonde female counterparts get when guys ask them if they are Russian.
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Ed Provencher



Joined: 15 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious if it is a Korean thing to do this or if it is done in other countries as well. Anybody have experience teaching in another country that can compare with Korea?
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Css



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Provencher wrote:
I'm curious if it is a Korean thing to do this or if it is done in other countries as well. Anybody have experience teaching in another country that can compare with Korea?


I was on the receiving end a few times when i was on vacation in china and japan.
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Lekker



Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japan. "Heeeeeyyyyyy doooood!"

In America, New York City. My sister and I are walking in Queens, some Cubans are sitting on the steps of their building. My sister has red hair. "Hola Mama Cita Firecracker!"
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tigerbluekitty



Joined: 19 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Japan. I was there with a hot caucasian friend, random Japanese girls kept approaching us and wanting to take pictures with him. He got quite a few phone numbers too.
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dino.sue



Joined: 15 May 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived in India for a stint, and it happened there with people of all ages. It happens to my sister, who lives in China. Westerners�"white people"�are still foreigners in the most basic sense of the word�we're foreign, we're different, we stand out. Koreans are making contact. Perhaps the Koreans are making fun of us. But our cultures do the same to them in our comedy acts.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: Drive-by English Reply with quote

Ed Provencher wrote:

I could be way off on this one. Is it simply their way of being courteous to foreigners?


All depends on the context. Sometimes it's a group of little douchebags who think it's hilarious to shout at us because we don't fall into the Korean respect heirarchy... other times it's a group of shy girls who giggle and wave. I respond to the ones being genuine and ignore/death stare the ones who aren't. Generally it's pretty easy to tell the difference.
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aka Dave



Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Down by the river

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get this at least a couple times a day on the walk to work. I always smile and say hi. Sometimes they'll burst into laughter - I don't get this, it's inappropriate, but I don't think it's being rude, it's just that I live in a provincial town, Cheong-ju, and the kids haven't seen many foreigners.

Sometimes they'll respond with "what's your name?" and I'll reply naturally. Often I'll hit them with "What's up dude?" or "How's it going?" They want English? I'll give em English.
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Cherbear



Joined: 17 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's adorable when little kids say hi. It's usually said so excitedly, how can you take offense?
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cherbear wrote:
I think it's adorable when little kids say hi.

From 20 meters away? To the back of your head? Two minutes after you passed them when they could have said Hi to your face?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the small group of older kids doing the "Puck you" and few times when I was in their viscinity. Sometimes it's just hard to know how to react to that. It's not like they're saying it to your face. That would be different. I just said "That's great" but not directly at them. They heard me.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
Cherbear wrote:
I think it's adorable when little kids say hi.

From 20 meters away? To the back of your head? Two minutes after you passed them when they could have said Hi to your face?


The little kids usually don't do that.
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