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Rock



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Deepset Opinions Reply with quote

Ran into a few people in Taiwan lately, confirming some deepset opinions about Korea I'd like to share here. This is not out of spite though. But perhaps it's something to reflect upon.

One Taiwanese woman'd said she'd seen a Korean girl in Vietnam with her foot on the chair tucked under her tush at a decent restaurant. The Vietnamese man firmly corrected her.

Another Taiwanese woman had said that a tour guide in New Zealand had said, "The Japanese, they're polite. The Taiwanese. . .you are Taiwanese, or what you are. The Koreans? I refuse to comment. " She then went on to make some bad comments he'd later said.

More have gone on to say they dislike the Koreans' behaviour, their indifference to others. Is there not, then, some truth to the opinions Western foreigners visiting Korea may feel if other Asian races aren't but significantly seething with anger? Is it not enough to base some kind of judgment on contrary to stereotyping and racist comments, like some of the things we feel may affect us?

Then I'd had a Korean student here who'd made some pretty belligerent comments to the Taiwanese which had made me realize, the New Zealand tour guide was right.

"They're big mouths."


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R-Seoul



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once had a Korean tell me he didn't like the cut of my jib.
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captain kirk



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How's Taiwan treatin' you? Gone snorkling? Great snorkling there, seriously. Loved that.

Irish of Asia (Koreans). Sorry Irish.
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simpleminds



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In London, Koreans have a bad rep.

Case in point: I met a tour guide who said neither the Japanese nor the Korean tour groups had any idea how to conduct themselves when waiting. It was busy, chaotic, hot and there weren't enough tellers. (maybe a few had take sick days, cos it was a nice day)

Anyway, the Japanese sorted themselves out when asked, apologising profusely. The Koreans? Ignored the reasonable request to make room for everybody else, and get into line, and contiuned to shout and hollar.

Although, the Koreans I met in Veitnam were a really nice lot, and it wasn't they who chucked rubbish overboard in Halong Bay. No, it was some English and Aussie yobs.

In the end, it's not so much the nationality but the persons that count.
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DrunkenMaster



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embrace your racism.

It�s Time to Put an End to the Prejudice Against Discrimination


by Kenny Kim

Despite what some people may have to say against it, I�m proud of my heritage. After my father moved to America from Korea 30 years ago, he absorbed many American values, but he also retained much of what makes Korea so rich and dynamic. He believed in strong family bonds and respect for one�s elders. He believed in a dedication to education and furthering oneself. And above all, he believed in the time-honored mistrust of dark-skinned people that my people have held for generations. A lot of people looked down on him for this and said he should change his ways. But I say it�s time to for American to change its ways. It�s time to put an end to the prejudice against discrimination.

My father was the first person on our block to not let black guys into his convenience store. A lot of people told him he was crazy. They said, �Why not just constantly watch them on the video cameras like everybody else?� But he was tired of bowing to the system and being a closet racist. Why should he have to live in shame? Why couldn�t he be accepted as an open racist? So he stuck to his convictions and later, when the store down the street was robbed by a black guy, people began to realize he was right. There�s no need to throw out traditional culture in favor of blind assimilation. Some traditions should be kept, like eating kimbap, and wearing hanbok, and telling your son you�ll disown him if he ever dates a white girl.

I know, a lot of you are thinking that Americans are open and accepting to all types of racists from around the world. Sure, America is accepting as long as you�re a polite little racist who keeps his mouth shut. But every chance people get, they try to stifle your cultural identity. I often hear people snicker that my culture is �backwards� and �close-minded�. Sometimes, I even hear people say slurs behind my back like �fucking bigot� and �dirty persecutor�.

I will always carry with me the rich heritage of traditional racism given to me by my dad. He passed away a few months ago, killed in a hail of gunfire as he tried to defend the store against a black security guard who was servicing the ATM machine. Even though he�s gone, I will still remember back when I was little and he would sit me on his knee and tell me, in voice resonant with the wisdom of an ancient culture, �I hate the way Mexicans smell.�

And one day, if I�m lucky, my kids will hate the way Mexicans smell too.

Thanks BB
http://theyangpa.wordpress.com/2007/01/08/its-time-to-end-the-prejudice-against-discrimination/
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One Taiwanese woman'd said she'd saw a Korean girl in Vietnam with her foot on the chair tucked under her tush at a decent restaurant. The Vietnamese man firmly corrected her.


Looks to me like that Vietnamese man has a ways to go in the cultural sensitivity area. Maybe I'm overly sensitive about feet and where to put them in public places because I got my feet smacked down off a chair when I was sitting in an outdoor cafe in Greece.
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the ireland



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

captain kirk wrote:
How's Taiwan treatin' you? Gone snorkling? Great snorkling there, seriously. Loved that.

Irish of Asia (Koreans). Sorry Irish.


what's with irish people? we know what we are and what we aren't (possibly with the exception of people from Dublin, but they aren;t irish, theyare dubliners Wink ) we don't have a bad rep around the world, you must be mistaken us with English people, who go abroad and expect red sauce and beans with everything and every body to speak English to them, despite the country they are in.

I met a guy in Tunisia who asked me where i was from, i said Ireland, he then asked me [b]"do you speak English there?"[/b] and went on to tell me that he was disappointed that there was no 2 litre bottles of vodka for cheap prices available, "like they had in Ibiza and aiya napa", he asked me if i knew why this was, i told him it's cos we were in a muslim country and on top of that we were a week away from ramadan, but he told me it's cos they were poor and couldn't afford it, he said, to take a look around, these people have no money.....all of this tookplave in front of three fluent English speaking Tunisians
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DrunkenMaster



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to put English subtitles on when I watch Irish movies
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the ireland



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrunkenMaster wrote:
I have to put English subtitles on when I watch Irish movies



I can't blame you, i know alot of people who do. most irish films are about working class dubliners or the west of ireland, each not very easy to understand if you're not from Ireland and sometimes dificult for people who don't quite get the dublin coloquilisms (spelling??), especially if you in movies like intermission, the van, the snapper, or the commitments!!!

i'm not talking about movies by tom cruise and nicole kidman sounding like a leprechaun, they are just terrible
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Privateer



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrunkenMaster wrote:
I have to put English subtitles on when I watch Irish movies


I pity you, and I look down on you slightly.

Anyway, since this thread is about validating the negative opinions on Korea of a large number of people here, I think there's no need to look outside for it. Just ask yourself: why is it that there are 20 times more complaints about Korea on the net than any other country, in Asia or indeed anywhere?
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DrunkenMaster



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privateer wrote:
DrunkenMaster wrote:
I have to put English subtitles on when I watch Irish movies


I pity you, and I look down on you slightly.



I can barely understand a word you're saying even now.
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the ireland



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrunkenMaster wrote:
Privateer wrote:
DrunkenMaster wrote:
I have to put English subtitles on when I watch Irish movies


I pity you, and I look down on you slightly.



I can barely understand a word you're saying even now.


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privateer wrote:
DrunkenMaster wrote:
I have to put English subtitles on when I watch Irish movies


I pity you, and I look down on you slightly.

Anyway, since this thread is about validating the negative opinions on Korea of a large number of people here, I think there's no need to look outside for it. Just ask yourself: why is it that there are 20 times more complaints about Korea on the net than any other country, in Asia or indeed anywhere?


There's likely 20 times the Net access here than anywhere else in the world.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrunkenMaster wrote:
Embrace your racism.

It�s Time to Put an End to the Prejudice Against Discrimination


by Kenny Kim

Despite what some people may have to say against it, I�m proud of my heritage. After my father moved to America from Korea 30 years ago, he absorbed many American values, but he also retained much of what makes Korea so rich and dynamic. He believed in strong family bonds and respect for one�s elders. He believed in a dedication to education and furthering oneself. And above all, he believed in the time-honored mistrust of dark-skinned people that my people have held for generations. A lot of people looked down on him for this and said he should change his ways. But I say it�s time to for American to change its ways. It�s time to put an end to the prejudice against discrimination.

My father was the first person on our block to not let black guys into his convenience store. A lot of people told him he was crazy. They said, �Why not just constantly watch them on the video cameras like everybody else?� But he was tired of bowing to the system and being a closet racist. Why should he have to live in shame? Why couldn�t he be accepted as an open racist? So he stuck to his convictions and later, when the store down the street was robbed by a black guy, people began to realize he was right. There�s no need to throw out traditional culture in favor of blind assimilation. Some traditions should be kept, like eating kimbap, and wearing hanbok, and telling your son you�ll disown him if he ever dates a white girl.

I know, a lot of you are thinking that Americans are open and accepting to all types of racists from around the world. Sure, America is accepting as long as you�re a polite little racist who keeps his mouth shut. But every chance people get, they try to stifle your cultural identity. I often hear people snicker that my culture is �backwards� and �close-minded�. Sometimes, I even hear people say slurs behind my back like �fucking bigot� and �dirty persecutor�.

I will always carry with me the rich heritage of traditional racism given to me by my dad. He passed away a few months ago, killed in a hail of gunfire as he tried to defend the store against a black security guard who was servicing the ATM machine. Even though he�s gone, I will still remember back when I was little and he would sit me on his knee and tell me, in voice resonant with the wisdom of an ancient culture, �I hate the way Mexicans smell.�

And one day, if I�m lucky, my kids will hate the way Mexicans smell too.

Thanks BB
http://theyangpa.wordpress.com/2007/01/08/its-time-to-end-the-prejudice-against-discrimination/



The writer of the yangpa is starting to sound more and more like that guy Kevin who hates Dave's and keeps posting porn. Maybe he'll grow up to be a trucker too.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm perplexed, why are the Irish being confused with Koreans?
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