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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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 Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: Our Position in Korean Society |
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According to: http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200702/200702270029.html
Here's where we stand:
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| with regular workers at the top of the hierarchy, followed by non-regular workers, North Korean defectors, alien workers, and North Korean residents. |
So forget about all of your delusions of grandeur! (that said, take
THAT North Korean residents!!) |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, but we can leave Korea anytime and get jobs all over the world. It's a good trade-off. |
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captain kirk
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!! |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Nice of them to confirm that we are second class workers.  |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I'll take as a consolation that I make more money than 80% of the "regular workers" here, and get 6 months paid vacation. |
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CentralCali
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Bibbitybop wrote: |
| Yes, but we can leave Korea anytime and get jobs all over the world. It's a good trade-off. |
Or we can just throw in the towel and return to our native countries. You know, the very places Koreans are practically killing themselves and/or their children to get to. |
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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the "alien workers" they refer to are probably 95% Chinese peasants.. that's why they've got their own huge floor where you go get your ARC
so yeah, that's how I'd rank them too |
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NilesQ
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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IMHO that is one of the fun parts about Korea: we don't even fit into their society, anywhere. I have gotten the free pass many times when doing something I shouldn't be. Someone starts to call you out and then realizes you are a whitey, and they walk away. We are not held accountable for much of anything, don't have to deal with the age and status hierarchies that Koreans do, and women here see us as different and exciting. I would gladly take all this over being treated as a Korean any day!
This reminds me of a friend's line: Korea is great if you aren't Korean! |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Our Position in Korean Society |
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| IlIlNine wrote: |
According to: http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200702/200702270029.html
Here's where we stand:
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| with regular workers at the top of the hierarchy, followed by non-regular workers, North Korean defectors, alien workers, and North Korean residents. |
So forget about all of your delusions of grandeur! (that said, take
THAT North Korean residents!!) |
Thanks for posting the truth. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| Bibbitybop wrote: |
| Yes, but we can leave Korea anytime and get jobs all over the world. It's a good trade-off. |
Or we can just throw in the towel and return to our native countries. You know, the very places Koreans are practically killing themselves and/or their children to get to. |
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| This reminds me of a friend's line: Korea is great if you aren't Korean! |
Agreed. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Incomes for North Koreans in the South are similar to those of foreign workers: they can buy a mobile phone, but not a car. |
Umm...did anyone actually read the article linked to? The alien workers mentioned are the hordes of 3D workers here. We make up only a small portion of foreign workers, but we are the elite of that group. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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| Incomes for North Koreans in the South are similar to those of foreign workers: they can buy a mobile phone, but not a car. |
Umm...did anyone actually read the article linked to? The alien workers mentioned are the hordes of 3D workers here. We make up only a small portion of foreign workers, but we are the elite of that group. |
I'm top of the second class! |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| NilesQ wrote: |
IMHO that is one of the fun parts about Korea: we don't even fit into their society, anywhere. I have gotten the free pass many times when doing something I shouldn't be. Someone starts to call you out and then realizes you are a whitey, and they walk away. We are not held accountable for much of anything, don't have to deal with the age and status hierarchies that Koreans do, and women here see us as different and exciting. I would gladly take all this over being treated as a Korean any day!
This reminds me of a friend's line: Korea is great if you aren't Korean! |
There's some truth to this. I find it strange that a total stranger (always an older Korean male) feels perfectly self-righteous when he tells off a Korean girl for hanging around a white guy, or smoking I suppose. That is just alien to me: a total stranger telling someone off for behavior that is none of his business and really does not affect him whatsoever, though I guess it affects
his prejudices of what an ideal world/Korea should be. Meanwhile that same ajosshi, we all know it right, is a piece of crap himself, up to no good pretty much every day of the week. |
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Beej
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Location: Eungam Loop
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| jajdude wrote: |
| NilesQ wrote: |
IMHO that is one of the fun parts about Korea: we don't even fit into their society, anywhere. I have gotten the free pass many times when doing something I shouldn't be. Someone starts to call you out and then realizes you are a whitey, and they walk away. We are not held accountable for much of anything, don't have to deal with the age and status hierarchies that Koreans do, and women here see us as different and exciting. I would gladly take all this over being treated as a Korean any day!
This reminds me of a friend's line: Korea is great if you aren't Korean! |
There's some truth to this. I find it strange that a total stranger (always an older Korean male) feels perfectly self-righteous when he tells off a Korean girl for hanging around a white guy, or smoking I suppose. That is just alien to me: a total stranger telling someone off for behavior that is none of his business and really does not affect him whatsoever, though I guess it affects
his prejudices of what an ideal world/Korea should be. Meanwhile that same ajosshi, we all know it right, is a piece of crap himself, up to no good pretty much every day of the week. |
This is one of many great ironies of Korean culture. Koreans explain away the general boorish public behavior: pushing, shoving, cutting in line by saying "see in Korean culture you are a nonentity until someone makes your acquantaince. So when they cut in front of you or push you, they dont really see you because they dont know you and hence you are a nonperson"
So then why do old men berate younger girls (who are strangers and who they shouldnt even see) for smoking, wearing short skirts, being with whitey etc... |
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OnTheOtherSide
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Beej wrote: |
| jajdude wrote: |
| NilesQ wrote: |
IMHO that is one of the fun parts about Korea: we don't even fit into their society, anywhere. I have gotten the free pass many times when doing something I shouldn't be. Someone starts to call you out and then realizes you are a whitey, and they walk away. We are not held accountable for much of anything, don't have to deal with the age and status hierarchies that Koreans do, and women here see us as different and exciting. I would gladly take all this over being treated as a Korean any day!
This reminds me of a friend's line: Korea is great if you aren't Korean! |
There's some truth to this. I find it strange that a total stranger (always an older Korean male) feels perfectly self-righteous when he tells off a Korean girl for hanging around a white guy, or smoking I suppose. That is just alien to me: a total stranger telling someone off for behavior that is none of his business and really does not affect him whatsoever, though I guess it affects
his prejudices of what an ideal world/Korea should be. Meanwhile that same ajosshi, we all know it right, is a piece of crap himself, up to no good pretty much every day of the week. |
This is one of many great ironies of Korean culture. Koreans explain away the general boorish public behavior: pushing, shoving, cutting in line by saying "see in Korean culture you are a nonentity until someone makes your acquantaince. So when they cut in front of you or push you, they dont really see you because they dont know you and hence you are a nonperson"
So then why do old men berate younger girls (who are strangers and who they shouldnt even see) for smoking, wearing short skirts, being with whitey etc... |
Because this society is built around customs, traditions and behaviors that are illogical, self-contradictory and foolish. Not to mention passive-aggressive and sissy-like.
My favorite thing is when groups of 2-4 guys will obviously be talking loudly about me as I walk by, usually accompanied by outbursts of laughter directed at me and sudden yells. Then I stop, turn around and look straight at them, I want a confrontation, and what do they do? They just ignore me and keep on walking, pretending like they didn't say anything. Usually as they do this they'll have a smart@ss smile on their face, or a look of shock that they're actually getting called out.
Come on people, if you're gonna belligerantly talk cr@p about me you should at least fight me too. I don't understand this whole ignoring me afterwards thing. Especially when there is one of me and three of you. I'm not even a very tall or big guy either, what are you afraid of?
Are you compensating for something small by trying to act like big men? |
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