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Going to North Korea in September for the Mass Games

 
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Capo



Joined: 09 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:51 am    Post subject: Going to North Korea in September for the Mass Games Reply with quote

First off has anyone done this before, got a tour operator to recomend?

And is anyone interested in joining me, its cheaper if 2 or more people book together.... Interested get this sorted out withing the next few weeks because visas for DPRK can take a while.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fairly certain you need an invitation to go to the Mass Games. It's not exactly a first come, first served venue.
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Bryan



Joined: 29 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You shouldn't fund a dictatorship where the money goes to enslave and kill all the people.
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soviet_man



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.koryogroup.com is the most well-known option for DPRK tours, based in Beijing.
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Capo



Joined: 09 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
I'm fairly certain you need an invitation to go to the Mass Games. It's not exactly a first come, first served venue.
You don't need an invitation, you just can't prebook and its unlikely to sell out
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Sincinnatislink



Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bryan wrote:
You shouldn't fund a dictatorship where the money goes to enslave and kill all the people.


Is it better to tacitly support a liberal democracy where the military budget is over twenty times larger than the GDP of said military dictatorship?
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Capo



Joined: 09 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sincinnatislink wrote:
Bryan wrote:
You shouldn't fund a dictatorship where the money goes to enslave and kill all the people.


Is it better to tacitly support a liberal democracy where the military budget is over twenty times larger than the GDP of said military dictatorship?
20 times? thats an understatement NK's GDP is only about $2billion
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Sincinnatislink



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Altogether, military-related expenses totaled approximately $626.1 billion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States

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GDP (PPP) 2006[3] estimate
- Total $40.00 billion (91st)
- Per capita $1,900 (147th)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_korea

15.5ish. Pardon my awful math on the first pass.
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Capo



Joined: 09 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sincinnatislink wrote:
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Altogether, military-related expenses totaled approximately $626.1 billion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States

aaaand ...
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GDP (PPP) 2006[3] estimate
- Total $40.00 billion (91st)
- Per capita $1,900 (147th)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_korea

15.5ish. Pardon my awful math on the first pass.

GDP (purchasing power parity):
$40 billion
note: North Korea does not publish any reliable National Income Accounts data; the datum shown here is derived from purchasing power parity (PPP) GDP estimates for North Korea that were made by Angus MADDISON in a study conducted for the OECD; his figure for 1999 was extrapolated to 2007 using estimated real growth rates for North Korea's GDP and an inflation factor based on the US GDP deflator; the result was rounded to the nearest $10 billion (2007 est.)
GDP (official exchange rate):
$2.22 billion (2006 est.)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/kn.html

the $40bil you posted is based on PPP which basically mean relative to what they can buy with their money in NK, the true GDP figure for '06 is $2.22 bil
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JordyC



Joined: 07 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Mass Games Reply with quote

I'm definitely interested in getting a glimpse, however brief, of North Korea. Politics aside, I've sent an email to Koryo Group about a possible tour including the Mass Games. However, they are based in China, so I think we should keep track of everyone that has interest from South Korea, and just keep each other aware of what info we're finding. I'm sure this isn't gonna be as easy as traveling Western Europe...haha. My name is Jordy...let's do this!
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