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[Octavius Hite]

Its been awhile but this was too sweet to pass up:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/23/3428/


I love how the right wing nutozens can talk about only one part of Leviticus, all the other stuff was just baloney!

Ahh Christians, is there anything they won't say to get you to hate or believe in their fairy tale nonsense (that goes for Muslims, Jews, Hindus and any other "believers" out there)

[riverboy]

Hite. Nice to see you back, but aren't you spewing out the same kind of Hate here?

And isn't lumping Fundamentalist Christians/ religious Zealots into the same category, is the same as me putting Gays in the same category as paedophiles?

[mithridates]

[Octavius Hite]

First off its not the same as lumping gays and paedophiles together because there is science that says most cases of sex abuse are straight (i.e. grown men on girls).

The stories these people spout are totally, TOTALLY nonsense and so anyone who believes in them and espouses them as some sort of twisted moral guide is a moron. Jonah never lived in a whale.

The point of the article is to show how people with an axe to grind, in this case straight white men who hate women (cause Homophobia is merely an extension of Misogyny), use selective passages from a fictitious book to deny equality to other people. Then, when someone who has actually read the book calls them on the fact that they are selectively following the crazy rules, these nuts lash out and try to deflect from the fact that they are in fact selectively following the book (they profess to understand and love so much).

These people count on the average laymen to have never actually read the entire bible (since most never study it in an academic setting, they only hear what their preacher says) they just take Dobson's word on it.

And finally, just because millions, or billions of people believe in it, doesn't make it true. There was a time when the whole known world believed in Zeus.

[mithridates]

[riverboy]

Ah the old there's science argument. I am sure that is called psychology. Which is either a Psuedo science, or a modern religion. There is science that says that (male) homosexuality is simply a case of arrested development where the individual existed in a female dominated household and never had the opportunity to properly bond with a positive male role model. Whereby, he seeks the missed father/son relationship through sexual contact with other men. (What's whith the misogyny rant anyway?)

What you are doing is ignoring the vast number of spiritul/ religous people, who in fact do have a rational grasp on science and the comsos and you attack the entire group, because of one fragment within that group.

If you are going to fight bigotry, don't fall into the same trap as the people you hate.... Hite..

Anyhow, welcome back again. The current events forum is kind of stale without you. Where have you been?

Whatever happened to Peel by the way?

[On the other hand]

Octavius is back. Cool.

[TheUrbanMyth]

[daskalos]

I suppose it is indeed down to how we define fundamentalist Christian, many of whom, the most vocal of whom, are indeed religious zealots. (I give you, for instance, The Phelpses.)

I suppose we do have to allow for people who define themselves as fundamentalist Christians (i.e., they adhere to whatever it is they define as the fundamentals of their faith, even though within the Christian faith there remains quite a difference of opinion as to what those fundamentals are) who do not zealously seek to foist their religion off onto the ignorant masses. I've met precious few non-religiously zealous fundamentalists, but I will admit they exist.

None of which takes away from Hite's point that these bastards (Dobson, et al) do play fast and loose with Deuteronomy. Out of one side of their mouths comes the idea that Christ is the New covenant, obviating the dictates of the Old one, but if I had a nickel for every time I've been figuratively beat over the head with what Deuteronomy has to say about me, I'd be one rich homo.

Either the old covenant doesn't apply, or it does, and if it does, Mr. Dobson, you need to stop shaving and eating bacon.

As to abortion, the only whiff I've been made aware that either covenant has to say about it is in some Pentateuchial law governing the fine due a man whose pregnant wife is killed. The fine is considerably less for the fetus than for the wife, which would seem to argue against the idea that the unborn must be accorded the same status as those of us outside the womb.

Oh right, old covenant. When Jesus came along he had this to say about gay people and abortionists:

[riverboy]

I see two schools emerging right now. One school is an angry reactionist hatred towards religion and all the bad that has happened over the millenia to various groups. These people ignore the story and the allegory involved in religion and blame it for all their personal problems.

The other group understand the historical context of religion and interprets it in a modern setting. Fundamentalists and Atheists seem to fall into the same trap. All the while ignoring the paradigm shift that is goin on with religion and spirituality today.

[daskalos]

[Underwaterbob]

[contrarian]

Sigh! It seems that Mormonism is the only sensible religion left.

[Octavius Hite]

I know you all jumped on my lumping all Christians together, but no one has yet answered my point, that why are people who believe in this nonsense allowed to pick and choose what parts they want to follow? Please answer that for me?????

[bacasper]