| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
SrBurrito
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
|
 Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: SMOE clarification: salary, recruiters |
 |
|
Currently trying to apply for a public school job through Korvia but have not yet submitted the application. I need two points of clarification and would greatly appreciate it if anyone could help.
1. Salary. Korvia sent me this scale:
| Quote: |
Lvl. 1 Teacher : 2.3M
Have two years of full-time teaching experience at accredited institutions plus (A) a Teacher's Certificate for elementary or secondary school; or (B) a TESOL/TEFL certificate (min. 100 hrs.); or (C) a Master's degree
Lvl. 2 Teacher : 2.1M
Have (A) a Teacher's certificate for elementary or secondary School; or (B) a TESOL/TEFL certificate (min. 100 hrs.); or (C) a Master's degree; or (D) a Bachelor's degree with at least one year of teaching experience at accredited institution
Lvl. 3 Teacher : 2.0M
Have a Bachelor's degree, but no experience or certification as outline above |
But this scale is on the ETIS website:
| Quote: |
Level H: 1.8 million won per month
* A Bachelor�s degree from an accredited university in one of major English-speaking countries with the instructions taught in English.
Level G: 2.0 million won per month
Must have one of the following qualifications:
* A valid teacher certification for either elementary or secondary level schools.
* A Bachelor�s degree in Education.
* A Bachelor�s degree in English, English Education, English Literature, or Linguistics.
* A TESOL/TEFL or an English Teaching Certificate comprised of a minimum of 100 course hours.
* A Master's degree.
* A Bachelor's degree with at least ONE (1) full year of English teaching experience at accredited institutions.
Level F: 2.2 million won per month
Must have one of the following qualifications:
* In addition to one of the requirements for Level G, ONE (1) full year of English teaching experience at accredited institutions including at the SMOE.
* A teacher certification with specialization in English Education.
* A Master�s degree in Education. |
And someone else on the board said he got 2.2 at a public school with no experience and no certification (which also describes me. My wife, who is also applying, has 3yr experience but no certification). What is a reasonable amount to expect to make at a public school? Is it negotiable or does it change depending on the particular location?
2. How to apply.
A lot of people seem to like Korvia and they seem to be pretty on the ball so far, but I've also read on the board that it might be best to apply directly to SMOE through ETIS. Others have said to ask a public school teacher to PM to get a job directly through SMOE. I'm starting to get frustrated with recruiters as I've already been blatantly lied to, and would rather work around them if possible. I'm concerned particularly with whether it will be easier to get higher pay by going with a recruiter. Any thoughts?
Thank you |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
KYC
Joined: 11 May 2006
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
1) The scale on the website is correct. And you will not make 2.2 with no experience with SMOE. If you have no experience or certification, you will start at the lowest (1.
2) You MUST apply through a recruiter. You CANNOT apply through SMOE directly. You can also only use one recruiter. Using multiple recruiters will result in your application in being rejected by SMOE. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Aussiekimchi
Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Looks like Korvia sent you the GEPIK levels instead of SMOE.
AT SMOE you may find you and your wife are at the following pay levels:
Level H: 1.8 million won per month ( You )
Level G: 2.0 million won per month ( your wife )
You can expect some overtime but it cannot be guarranteed.
These salaries are not negotiable and do not change according to location within SMOE and Seoul. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
aarontendo
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| You should both consider knocking down a quickie TEFL certificate, you'll bump your salaries quite nicely from it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
esetters21
Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| aarontendo wrote: |
| You should both consider knocking down a quickie TEFL certificate, you'll bump your salaries quite nicely from it. |
A TEFL cert. bumps you up 100,000w per month with SMOE. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
TeeBee
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Yes, the salary levels KorVia sent you are for Gepik. Just ask Joyce to send you the SMOE scale.
You can make 2.2 mill with no experience if you go for Gepik. If they place you in a "designated rural area", and you have a TEFL certificate or equivalent, then that's no problem. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| esetters21 wrote: |
| aarontendo wrote: |
| You should both consider knocking down a quickie TEFL certificate, you'll bump your salaries quite nicely from it. |
A TEFL cert. bumps you up 100,000w per month with SMOE. |
Yes. Make sure is a 100 or more course, even an online one like ITTT TEFL. You can also submit your certificate to SMOE during your term of employment. Your next month's salary will be increased from then on. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Privates. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
aarontendo
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| esetters21 wrote: |
| aarontendo wrote: |
| You should both consider knocking down a quickie TEFL certificate, you'll bump your salaries quite nicely from it. |
A TEFL cert. bumps you up 100,000w per month with SMOE. |
It would bump him 200,000 a month. He would go from a 1.8 level H to a 2.0 level G. His wife would be placed at 2.3.
If I'm reading it right between em they'd be pulling down an extra 500,000 a month. That's a pretty good return considering some of those 100 hour certs would only set you back a few hundred bucks per person.
You're sorta right, it does bump 100,000 unless you're new to ESL'ing, then you get the 200,000 bump. Either way well worth it IMO. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jellobean
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
If you want to avoid recruiters and don't have your heart set on Seoul, Gangwon-do might be a good option.
Their direct no-recruiter ad is here: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=31999
A lot of the province is rural but if you are coming with your wife their couples jobs might be a good choice or you may be able to get schools in the same city. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| jellobean wrote: |
If you want to avoid recruiters and don't have your heart set on Seoul, Gangwon-do might be a good option.
Their direct no-recruiter ad is here: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=31999
A lot of the province is rural but if you are coming with your wife their couples jobs might be a good choice or you may be able to get schools in the same city. |
The recruiters that work for SMOE are some of the best (as far as recruiters can be, I guess). There are complaints from time to time, but apply to a SMOE job is pretty cut and dry for the recruiters and applicants. They can't promise you things that aren't in the SMOE contract, and the SMOE contract doesn't change.
Many recruiters are bad because they lie and mislead applicants, wedging them into jobs the applicants may not have otherwise taken. The SMOE recruiters simply do the collection of CVs, initial screening of applicants and answer questions about the job. SMOE decides who to use, so it is not in the long-run favor a recruiter to lie about SMOE jobs. SMOE has already been informed of some problems and takes them into consideration when using future recruiters. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
egrog1717
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Can anyone make an educated guess as to the percentage of applicants who are actually hired by the SMOE? (Say... 1 in 5, 2 in 10, everyone they can take... etc etc?) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| egrog1717 wrote: |
| Can anyone make an educated guess as to the percentage of applicants who are actually hired by the SMOE? (Say... 1 in 5, 2 in 10, everyone they can take... etc etc?) |
Honestly, the ETIS program is growing every year and it is common to hear that SMOE doesn't fill all the positions. While there are teachers who enter the program straight out of university with a non-English or non-education related degree, SMOE likes to hire people in the field or with teaching experience. It is common to have people who worked in a hogwan before coming to SMOE.
But for numbers, I don't know. Maybe Ben Glickman or ddeubel will pop in here. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
karincosme
Joined: 20 Oct 2007
Location: South Korea
|
| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: SMOE Salary |
|
|
deleted
Last edited by karincosme on Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:41 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
|
| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: SMOE Salary |
|
|
| karincosme wrote: |
| How can you have no public school experience and still make 2.2 million won? I have a bachelor's degree, TEFL/TESL/TESOL, 1 year of experience in a public school, 12 months in a Korean hogwan, and a GEPIK PS wants to pay me only 2.1 million won per month. At SMOE, how much will I be able to make per month with my credentials? |
Karincosme, basically it works out like this. Base is 2mil (lvl3). 2.1 mill if you have a TEFL (lvl2) and to get to level 3, you need to have a TEFL and 2 years experience. So anyone who is fresh out of Uni with a TEFL will be getting 2.1 and if you are placed in a designated rural area (they can be pretty hit and miss in GEPIK) that's an extra 100,000 making 2.2mill. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
