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[CeleryMan]

Fried platanos and the International eye candy are two reasons why I bought a loft in Miami.

[just4u]

(deleted) Maybe I was too hard on the state.

[Tiger Beer]

A lot of these descriptions remind me of the 'stoner' crowd when growing up in Michigan. Lots of rock-n-roll and metal and hard rock. Drug usage is fairly common, although more just pot, acid, shrooms, etc., and I'm even imagining the black rock concert t-shirts like AC/DC or Zeppelin shirts being commonplace, which turned into Metallica, Slayer, etc. which is now maybe Pantera, etc. or whoever else. Not a whole lot of ambition there either. Kick back and watch Pink Floyd's 'The Wall'.

Not sure if Florida has that feel, but some of these descriptions are making me think of that!

[Captain Marlow]

i loved reading all of these replies... i grew up in tallahassee, and my mother and brother still live there... went to leon high, then to fsu... tallahassee was great to live in when in high school and university... i smoked a shit-ton of grass, swam in cherokee sink (aka indian sink), visited wakulla springs (where alligators stare at you from the opposite side and you can get the home made ice cream in the hotel), did the tubing thing down the ichtuknee river (aka the itch-me-touch-me river) ate boiled pnuts and drank $1.50 beers at shaded picnic tables at the flea market, hung out at phaze one with orly for countless hours, got pulled over by tpd or fsupd on numerous occassions for simply driving after 3am (never arrested ), avoided the malls with a passion, fence hopped to swim in apartment pools and hot tubs late at night, sat outside at pita rita during famu homecoming and watched the craziness, and a lot of other "lame to anyone other than me" stuff...
but it was good times and i made some of the most laid back people there... eventually, i made the switch to atlanta though, just like everyone else that grows up in tally...
i'm going back there for november and december and i can't wait!
i don't think i would ever want to live in tally again, but i love visiting a couple o times a year... the best thing about the city (or florida) to me is all the natural places that you can spend the day swimming... for those of you who have never been to a natural spring, you're definately missing out... i can't think of a better way to spend the day than to bbq, drink some brew, lay on a raft, and just laze about...

this topic has brought a tear to my eye... i can't do any of those things in korea...

[Benicio]

just4u, wow! So I guess you have an opinion on Florida.

Maybe there is more of it there, but I think it goes on everywhere- people with money thinking they are so high class and above the peasantry, that money allows them to do whatever they want, to whom ever they want and behave as obnoxious as they want. These are usually characteristics of the new rich- born poor or middle class, but made millions and become loud, garish, arrogant, obnoxious show-offs. Kind of like all those hip hop douchebags like P Diddy.
Florida has a lot of new rich!

What I can't stand is the hypocritical holy rollers. Florida certainly has a lot of them!
The devout, church goin', bible thumpin', "praise him" types who hate gays and non-whites and actually believe that if a child sees a woman's booby- ala Janet Jackson at the Super Bowl- they will be damaged for life.
These are the same people who cheat in business deals, lie, cheat on their spouses, rally against porn and strip clubs while secretly wishing they could enjoy it freely, etc.

My own aunt is one of these born again holy rollers. She lies, cheats, and is one of the most selfish people I know, but she thinks she has a golden ticket to heaven because she goes to church several times a week and says "praise him" as much as she can. She thinks she's so pure because she doesn't drink or watch rated R movies.
I am ashamed of her!

Anyway, in small town* Florida, you are surrounded by people like that.

* in the case of Orlando and Jacksonville, you have big towns full of holy rollers!

[Captain Marlow]

i remember i had to give a presentation in front of a class at fsu, and i decided to wear a "funny" tshirt... it read, "jesus died for my sins and all i got was this lousy tshirt"... i've never received so many dagger eyes... tallahassee definately seems to be the most christian place i've ever lived... even more than korea

[Fishead soup]

I used to visit there as a child. I always ended up puking in the car. Why couldn't we fly.

We ended up in one of the lesser known beaches. You could literally stand
at the edge of the sand and spit in the sea.Every fifteen minutes a dump truck would dump sand on the beach. By the time that sand got washed away another one would come and dump more sand. You could find sharks teeth wash up on shore.

The film by Jim Jarmish " Stranger than Paradise" paints a very bleak impression of the place.

[just4u]

Ack. I take back what I said about moving to a small, Georgia redneck town over FL...because of....nevermind. (I talked to some people in towns even smaller than mine who helped me remember...aah the provinical attitude. But ANYWAY....)

I live in a really small town NOW and I can understand your comments Benicio. You forgot to mention the lack of privacy! I think small towns are like THAT everywhere, too...

And new money...that's a good point...and there IS a lot of it in FL. Maybe it's just a "new money" attitude rather than a FL attitude, per se...there just happens to be a lot of it located IN FL.

Tallahassee, from its description, actually sounds a lot better than the town where I'm living in now. You have sinkholes to swim in, and there are actually STORES in your mall...where I'm living at now the mall has half the stores closed and half of them are boarded up...it's like a ghost town, pathetic... So I don't know about those other places in FL, but North FL doesn't sound too bad, esp Tally, don't know too much about Jacksonville, would like to learn more....it DOES sound like South Georgia except with more to do.

[cisco kid]

[mises]

Don't know about the rest of Fl, but Miami Beach is really nice.

[just4u]

[quote="cisco kid")
But I'd never go back. Atlanta is SO much better![/quote]

Is it Cisco Kid? I'm just curious. I'm not trying to go off topic in the thread or anything, but like I said in the post I deleted, everyone in my South Georgia town winds up moving to Atlanta or Florida for the most part, so I would love to hear a quick run-down or a comparison from someone who has lived in both places. (I myself don't know anyone who has lived in both places, South Georgia and FL yes but Atlanta and FL no.)

That you tube bar song was pretty.

[Tiger Beer]

[veggiepower]

I was brought to Florida 30 years ago, by my parents. This move was from Washington State. I was a culture shock I didn't think would exist, in America. The schools were way behind the schools, in Washington; the southern drawal was difficult to understand; the flying cock roaches were horrible and there didn't seem to be many peers with high goals. I am white and my peers were not permitted to watch programs that included black people. The "N" word for black people was a part of speech. The humidity was and still is horrible. By the time a person is dressed and for women, put on makeup; and walks outside the door, it's time for another shower, the sweating is so bad. Then there's the backward southern government and law enforcement. My goal is still, to leave this state and never look back. [color=blue]

[pokesplort]

ah florida my humid home, how i despise you. yeah i'm from florida and its pretty crap most of the time. the only good things about it for me is that my family is there. but its too hot, too humid, too many gigantic freaking palmetto bugs/roaches. and unfortunately, i've never really liked the beach as much as other people. oh its alright, i guess i just don't like being surrounded by so many people. i lived in gainesville for 6 years and i feel that is more my home than orlando where my parents live. gainesville has its shitty factors. fresh new batch of very young very rich students who bitch all the time. i'm not much of a football fan so i just hide at home during games. shameful i know. but orlando sucks ass. the roads were designed by chimps and its pretty high up there on the cities with highest murder rates. i do miss gainesville now though. sigh, and i only ever wanted to escape it...

[just4u]

Nice to see that the topic has re-surfaced itself while I've been thinking about it...(cool co-incidence).
I used to teach in Korea and live in South Georgia now. As far as going back to Asia, I don't know, I seem to have a lot of things tying me down to the States at this moment. At any rate, one of my friends wants me to move to Jax, another wants me to move to Atlanta. Here in South Georgia it seems that most everyone goes to one of those two places (nobody stays here in South Georgia). Of course there is stuff in between, but you would have to go to Texas for that! Not much here in GA between FL and Atl, unless you count the Sav, which is a possibility and a nice place, but not really a huge, world class city if you know what I mean. (No insult intended with that whatsoever.)
I've been thinking about it a lot lately. Jacksonville, while bigger than Atlanta, seems to be *the smallest big city you'd ever live in*, meaning it seems like it would actually be far easier to meet people. There, it's much more casual, you can wear tank tops and flip flops, etc, you know. But *and I don't say this to bash FL but you Floridians will know what I mean and I do know having grown up right by there* there are just too many pissed off people in FL. That is not because they are bad people, and not because there aren't fun things to do in FL (there are, and I've spent enough time there to know ) and not saying that FL isn't cool edgy and hip in its own way. But there are too many downsides and the negativity seems to fester. Many of them have already been mentioned-the ever changing weather (lots of people get struck by lightning-world's lightning capital), the bugs which are something out of a horror novel (no joke-if you've dealt with them you know-and the heat brings them out no matter how clean you keep your house), the way people drive (no Jim, that car is NOT a moving target! We're no longer on the shooting range ) all the senior citizens bless their hearts but someone is always sick or dying. It's true. Urbandictionary defines it as being a place for the newly wed or the nearly dead. I have to be inclined to agree.
Being originally from California, Nebraska (Omaha, the urban center), and Colorado, there is definitely a lot of culture shock both in GA and FL. And to be honest, I am a bit on the trendy side, which makes GA (as well as some other places I've lived in in the past) a bit difficult, not to mention boring, to live in. But if you are right by the FL border and have spent as much time down there as I have (and I and other consider the border towns in GA really in FL or they should be)...you will feel a bond with anyone else who survived it, like "I got out." I know I am stuck by it for now, but I have felt that bond with others who got out and I myself am preparing to leave. The negativity is not just the culture shock from the cultural conformity that one finds in Korea (not bashing Korea). It is living on the edge in a really real way that one just does not find elsewhere in the United States (except for Texas maybe, and New Orleans.) It can really take its toll-every day hearing about someone having a wreck, near death experience, natural disasters frequent, unreal looking animals, the place can be surreal. Now I'm sure some people will laugh at me and call me a newb but there are those of us who do not get our kicks out of high adrenaline lives, and there are others who really just love it. My finances have me stuck here for now but I think I'm more the former.
On the upside, any human kindess shown here takes on an almost supernatural beauty, because we have to deal with so many people who are mean as snakes, hate younger people, hate poor people, etc. So you will meet people from out of town or who end up moving away who are the slightest bit uncruel/unselfish and find yourself practically falling in love with them for a bit of kindness that is just part of everyday life in say, places like Korea. (And yes the reverse is true...a lot of people have flipped over me-not bragging or anything-because of a lot of the generosity I learned in Korea-FL/South GA is just really a gray area and you don't see much of it so it's truly amazing when someone is unselfish.)
And I know not everyone in FL is selfish so no one take offense! Just saying the ones who aren't are gems.
Atlanta....seems to have a lot less tension and more authenticness (sp?). Of course it's all relative and many say ppl in Atl and LA are fake but when you compare different parts of the country to each other...hmm...yeah.
Not trying to be funny either but I've known a lot of people from FL sober up and move out of Fl. That would be the most common reason I've seen. Number two is getting sick of a lot of people around them. There can be lots and lots of "friend drama" and "family drama."
I often wonder about Texas. It seems a lot like Georgia and FL put together, just without the state line there seperating. Am I right on that?
To sum it all up, too many angry people in FL and it ruins it for the good ones, my friend in JAX said there are cops that come to the club with tasers, is this true?
*Nobody flame me ok I'm not bashing FL or anyone in it, just giving my opinions on why a lot of people seem to leave. There seems to be a lot to do there but a lot of unhappy people.*