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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: What best defines Canada |
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Trudeau, Niagara Falls among top Canadian icons, poll finds
Picture this mental image: Former prime minister Pierre Trudeau stands with his back to the thundering waters of Niagara Falls, clutching a red maple leaf in his hand. On Canada Day.
Can you imagine a more Canadian scene? Only if the robotic space Canadarm somehow snuck into the frame, according to a recent poll.
The Ipsos-Reid survey, on behalf of the Dominion Institute and the federal Department of Citizenship and Immigration, asked Canadians what best defines their country.
After tallying the results, Trudeau was revealed as the person who most defines Canada. Niagara Falls was the defining place, Canada Day the defining event, Canadarm the defining accomplishment and the maple leaf was the defining symbol.
The results showed a spirit of national unity across the country's many regions. Canada Day and the maple leaf, for example, topped the lists in every region in their respective categories.
But a few quirky responses turned the spotlight on Canada's regional character. Western Canadians, to take just one example, stayed true to the Rocky Mountains in choosing the most definitive Canadian place.
Respondents were asked five open-ended questions: What is Canada's defining person, event, place, symbol and accomplishment?
All of the results were gathered and presented in a random order back to the person surveyed. From that new list, they were asked to pick the Top 10 items and rank these from most to least important. The most important item was assigned a point total of 10, the second most was a nine and points declined to one for the least important item.
The results were then divided back into the five main categories: people, places, events, accomplishments and symbols.
To learn more about the project, visit the Dominion Institute's website at www.101things.ca
Canadians either loved or hated Trudeau, but the Liberal prime minister made a distinct impression on them. He was chosen as the most defining Canadian person by a wide margin, well ahead of hockey superstar Wayne Gretzky in second and Marathon of Hope runner Terry Fox in third.
Chanteuse C�line Dion finished fourth nationally, but was the No. 1 choice of Quebecers. Gretzky topped the list in Alberta, the province where he won four Stanley Cups as a member of the Edmonton Oilers. Trudeau was second in both regions and first everywhere else.
Sir John A. Macdonald, Canada's first prime minister, came in at No. 5 on the list, but wasn't the only politician to make the list. The "father of medicare," Tommy Douglas (seventh), Prime Minister Stephen Harper (eighth) and former Liberal prime minister Lester B. Pearson (ninth) all appeared on the list.
Environmentalist David Suzuki (seventh) and Montreal Canadiens superstar Maurice (Rocket) Richard (10th) round out the list.
The regions of Canada had many of their own ideas of a defining Canadian. Author Pierre Berton made the list in Ontario, while Quebecers included political leaders Rene Levesque and Jean Chr�tien, Cirque du Soleil founder Guy Lalibert�, and astronaut Julie Payette.
Singer Anne Murray struck a chord with Atlantic Canadians, while activist Rick Hansen and artist Emily Carr were on the list in B.C. Albertans remembered their funny bone and put Jim Carrey in the Top 10, while Saskatchewan and Manitoba respondents included Queen Elizabeth II.
When it comes picking a defining place, Canadians stick fairly close to home, according to the survey results.
Western Canadians saw the Rocky Mountains as the most defining place. In Quebec and Atlantic Canada, Parliament Hill topped the list.
But Ontarians had a soft spot for Niagara Falls, helping to propel it to the top of the national survey. The Rockies, Parliament Hill and the city of Ottawa were all close behind.
Its reputation perhaps stung by losing its crown as the world's largest free-standing structure, Toronto's CN Tower rounded out the Top 5. Cities and provinces dominated the bottom half of the Top 10: Quebec City (sixth), Toronto (seventh), Montreal (eighth), the province of Quebec (ninth) and Vancouver (10th).
Banff National Park got special attention from respondents across Western Canada. B.C. residents held a soft spot for Victoria on their definitive list, while Saskatchewan and Manitoba residents mentioned historic Fort Garry.
The St. Lawrence Seaway was on the top 10 list for Quebec and Ontario and, perhaps surprisingly, in B.C.
Charlottetown, The Fortress of Louisbourg, Halifax and Acadia were all picks of Atlantic Canadians.
Across the country, Canada Day is seen as the defining Canadian event by a large margin, according to the poll results. The July 1 national holiday left the actual creation of the country it celebrates - Confederation - in the dust.
Key historical dates made Canada's top 10 list, including the First and Second World Wars (third), the battle of Vimy Ridge (fifth) and the Battle of the Plains of Abraham (sixth).
Proving that Canadians remember a good party, the Calgary Stampede (fourth), Expo 67 (ninth) and Quebec Winter Carnival (10th) also made the list. So did sporting events the Grey Cup (seventh) and Olympics (eighth).
The 2010 Olympics earned a specific mention in British Columbia, and the Louis Riel Rebellion and Remembrance Day were high in importance for Alberta and Saskatchewan residents. Ontarians see the War of 1812 in the Top 10, while Atlantic Canadians gave a shout out to the Juno Awards.
Quebecers saw a number of events in their home province as definitive to Canadian identity, including the Montreal Jazz Festival, the Grand Prix auto race and St. Jean Baptiste Day.
Perhaps surprisingly, the 1972 Summit Series between Canadian and Soviet hockey teams appeared only on lists in Atlantic Canada and Alberta.
Space may be the final frontier, but the Canadarm, which made its debut on the space shuttle in 1981, was first in the country's list of defining accomplishments.
The depth of Canadian achievement, however, provided the robotic engineering triumph with a wealth of competition.
Peacekeeping followed close behind as the second choice, topping the lists for both Albertan and Atlantic Canada. Universal health care, ranked third nationally, was the No. 1 choice of those surveyed in British Columbia, Manitoba and Saskatchewan.
But the Canadarm ranked tops in both Ontario and Quebec.
The spirit of scientific discovery and engineering prowess was also recognized in the form of Fredrick Banting's insulin innovation (fourth), Alexander Graham Bell's telephone (fifth), the national railroad (eighth) and the Avro Arrow project (10th).
Canadian values such as diversity and multiculturalism (sixth) and freedom (ninth) were also important as well as the Constitution and Charter of Rights (eighth).
Albertans found the oil industry to be among the most definitive accomplishments, while environmental conservation struck a chord in B.C.
Bilingualism appeared on the list for Atlantic Canada and Saskatchewan/Manitoba, while hydroelectricity scored third among Quebecers.
By an overwhelming margin, the maple leaf topped the list of Canada's definitive symbols, leaving the second-highest entry, hockey, in its shadow. The Canadian flag which, perhaps not coincidentially features a maple leaf, was third.
The rest of the list of Canadian symbols reads like a who's who of Canadian pop culture imagery: the beaver, Mounties, Stanley Cup, wilderness, the loonie, maple syrup and the moose.
Saskatchewan and Manitoba residents would add a bird (the Canada goose) and a grain (wheat) to that list. Quebecers would include a world-famous hotel, the Chateau Frontenac, while Atlantic Canadians hold a special place for the Bluenose schooner.
The poll sampled 3,114 adult Canadians between March 31 and April 22, 2008. Nationally, it is considered accurate to within 1.8 percentage points, 19 times out of 20. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:02 am Post subject: Re: What best defines Canada |
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drkalbi wrote: |
Trudeau, Niagara Falls among top Canadian icons, poll finds
Picture this mental image: Former prime minister Pierre Trudeau stands with his back to the thundering waters of Niagara Falls, clutching a red maple leaf in his hand. On Canada Day.
Can you imagine a more Canadian scene? Only if the robotic space Canadarm somehow snuck into the frame, according to a recent poll.
The Ipsos-Reid survey, on behalf of the Dominion Institute and the federal Department of Citizenship and Immigration, asked Canadians what best defines their country.
After tallying the results, Trudeau was revealed as the person who most defines Canada. Niagara Falls was the defining place, Canada Day the defining event, Canadarm the defining accomplishment and the maple leaf was the defining symbol.
The results showed a spirit of national unity across the country's many regions. Canada Day and the maple leaf, for example, topped the lists in every region in their respective categories.
But a few quirky responses turned the spotlight on Canada's regional character. Western Canadians, to take just one example, stayed true to the Rocky Mountains in choosing the most definitive Canadian place.
Respondents were asked five open-ended questions: What is Canada's defining person, event, place, symbol and accomplishment?
All of the results were gathered and presented in a random order back to the person surveyed. From that new list, they were asked to pick the Top 10 items and rank these from most to least important. The most important item was assigned a point total of 10, the second most was a nine and points declined to one for the least important item.
The results were then divided back into the five main categories: people, places, events, accomplishments and symbols.
To learn more about the project, visit the Dominion Institute's website at www.101things.ca
Canadians either loved or hated Trudeau, but the Liberal prime minister made a distinct impression on them. He was chosen as the most defining Canadian person by a wide margin, well ahead of hockey superstar Wayne Gretzky in second and Marathon of Hope runner Terry Fox in third.
Chanteuse C�line Dion finished fourth nationally, but was the No. 1 choice of Quebecers. Gretzky topped the list in Alberta, the province where he won four Stanley Cups as a member of the Edmonton Oilers. Trudeau was second in both regions and first everywhere else.
Sir John A. Macdonald, Canada's first prime minister, came in at No. 5 on the list, but wasn't the only politician to make the list. The "father of medicare," Tommy Douglas (seventh), Prime Minister Stephen Harper (eighth) and former Liberal prime minister Lester B. Pearson (ninth) all appeared on the list.
Environmentalist David Suzuki (seventh) and Montreal Canadiens superstar Maurice (Rocket) Richard (10th) round out the list.
The regions of Canada had many of their own ideas of a defining Canadian. Author Pierre Berton made the list in Ontario, while Quebecers included political leaders Rene Levesque and Jean Chr�tien, Cirque du Soleil founder Guy Lalibert�, and astronaut Julie Payette.
Singer Anne Murray struck a chord with Atlantic Canadians, while activist Rick Hansen and artist Emily Carr were on the list in B.C. Albertans remembered their funny bone and put Jim Carrey in the Top 10, while Saskatchewan and Manitoba respondents included Queen Elizabeth II.
When it comes picking a defining place, Canadians stick fairly close to home, according to the survey results.
Western Canadians saw the Rocky Mountains as the most defining place. In Quebec and Atlantic Canada, Parliament Hill topped the list.
But Ontarians had a soft spot for Niagara Falls, helping to propel it to the top of the national survey. The Rockies, Parliament Hill and the city of Ottawa were all close behind.
Its reputation perhaps stung by losing its crown as the world's largest free-standing structure, Toronto's CN Tower rounded out the Top 5. Cities and provinces dominated the bottom half of the Top 10: Quebec City (sixth), Toronto (seventh), Montreal (eighth), the province of Quebec (ninth) and Vancouver (10th).
Banff National Park got special attention from respondents across Western Canada. B.C. residents held a soft spot for Victoria on their definitive list, while Saskatchewan and Manitoba residents mentioned historic Fort Garry.
The St. Lawrence Seaway was on the top 10 list for Quebec and Ontario and, perhaps surprisingly, in B.C.
Charlottetown, The Fortress of Louisbourg, Halifax and Acadia were all picks of Atlantic Canadians.
Across the country, Canada Day is seen as the defining Canadian event by a large margin, according to the poll results. The July 1 national holiday left the actual creation of the country it celebrates - Confederation - in the dust.
Key historical dates made Canada's top 10 list, including the First and Second World Wars (third), the battle of Vimy Ridge (fifth) and the Battle of the Plains of Abraham (sixth).
Proving that Canadians remember a good party, the Calgary Stampede (fourth), Expo 67 (ninth) and Quebec Winter Carnival (10th) also made the list. So did sporting events the Grey Cup (seventh) and Olympics (eighth).
The 2010 Olympics earned a specific mention in British Columbia, and the Louis Riel Rebellion and Remembrance Day were high in importance for Alberta and Saskatchewan residents. Ontarians see the War of 1812 in the Top 10, while Atlantic Canadians gave a shout out to the Juno Awards.
Quebecers saw a number of events in their home province as definitive to Canadian identity, including the Montreal Jazz Festival, the Grand Prix auto race and St. Jean Baptiste Day.
Perhaps surprisingly, the 1972 Summit Series between Canadian and Soviet hockey teams appeared only on lists in Atlantic Canada and Alberta.
Space may be the final frontier, but the Canadarm, which made its debut on the space shuttle in 1981, was first in the country's list of defining accomplishments.
The depth of Canadian achievement, however, provided the robotic engineering triumph with a wealth of competition.
Peacekeeping followed close behind as the second choice, topping the lists for both Albertan and Atlantic Canada. Universal health care, ranked third nationally, was the No. 1 choice of those surveyed in British Columbia, Manitoba and Saskatchewan.
But the Canadarm ranked tops in both Ontario and Quebec.
The spirit of scientific discovery and engineering prowess was also recognized in the form of Fredrick Banting's insulin innovation (fourth), Alexander Graham Bell's telephone (fifth), the national railroad (eighth) and the Avro Arrow project (10th).
Canadian values such as diversity and multiculturalism (sixth) and freedom (ninth) were also important as well as the Constitution and Charter of Rights (eighth).
Albertans found the oil industry to be among the most definitive accomplishments, while environmental conservation struck a chord in B.C.
Bilingualism appeared on the list for Atlantic Canada and Saskatchewan/Manitoba, while hydroelectricity scored third among Quebecers.
By an overwhelming margin, the maple leaf topped the list of Canada's definitive symbols, leaving the second-highest entry, hockey, in its shadow. The Canadian flag which, perhaps not coincidentially features a maple leaf, was third.
The rest of the list of Canadian symbols reads like a who's who of Canadian pop culture imagery: the beaver, Mounties, Stanley Cup, wilderness, the loonie, maple syrup and the moose.
Saskatchewan and Manitoba residents would add a bird (the Canada goose) and a grain (wheat) to that list. Quebecers would include a world-famous hotel, the Chateau Frontenac, while Atlantic Canadians hold a special place for the Bluenose schooner.
The poll sampled 3,114 adult Canadians between March 31 and April 22, 2008. Nationally, it is considered accurate to within 1.8 percentage points, 19 times out of 20. |
A cheesy maple leaf patch on a backpack? Oh yeh, I guess you mentioned that one. I would also add a "world class chip on the shoulder" as being something that defines Canadians. |
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peppermint

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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: |
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dr. kalbi- if you're going to lift articles directly from the CBC, it's good form to at least mention that you did. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Cold, but a beautiful natural environment. |
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warren pease

Joined: 12 May 2008
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Pamela Anderson. For that, thank you Canada. We'd like to give you Dave Coulier back.
Neil Young thanks and Norm McDonald was great for a while.
Celine Dion, I doubt you want. Perhaps the French would take her.
Great strip clubs, though, really top notch.
Good pot in the nineties which turned into mediocre pot in the early oughts |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Location: japan is better than korea.
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:09 am Post subject: |
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how about this one?
"boring, tired, nobody fucking cares"?
and i'm canadian. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Leslie Nielsen (Naked Gun)
Mr. Drummond
Cap'n Kirk
Peter Jennings
Lorne Green
Michael J. Fox
Rita McNeil (ha)
Steve Nash
Owen Hargreaves
Caesar drink
the Expos (RIP)
the CFL
the Grey Cup
88 Winter Olympics
Todd McFarlane
eh
Bob and Doug
Moosehead
Big Rock
Sleemens Cream Ale
Tim Hortons
the giant perogie that looks like a woman's junk (it's near Edmonton)
Indians/Natives/First Nations/Inuit/Metis...
Bison
Newfies
Pil
strip clubs without pasties or bottoms
smoked meat sandwiches from Q-bec
Peter Lougheed telling Trudeau to go *beep* em self
mud flaps on Saskatchewanians cars, also buffets
Lake of the Woods
Macs
Co-op
Nolton Nash
Barbra Frum
the National and the Journal
Terry David Mulligan
Tommy Hunter
the Cape Breton Trail
Hockey Night in Canada
dun dun dun dun dun...
Don Whitman (RIP)
Woolco (RIP)
People saying sorry when you bump into them, and meaning it
leave a penny, take a penny
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:05 am Post subject: |
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uberscheisse wrote: |
how about this one?
"boring, tired, nobody fucking cares"?
and i'm canadian. |
i miss that boring. i miss people caring about complete strangers. i miss people reaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllly thinking when the get behind the wheel. i miss people stopping to think. to think. what a concept. i miss people smiling, and meaning it. i miss women who aren't afraid to say what they mean, instead of waiting until they are dried up ajjumas. i miss clean air. i miss clean water. i miss nature. i miss the sky. i miss color. i miss english. |
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peppermint

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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: |
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and judging by your location, you miss the littlest hobo too. . |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Canadian tv:
Littlest Hobo!
Mr. Dressup/Casey and Finnegan
the friendly giant/his rocking chair/his giraffe
that crazy show with the hamster driving the speed boat and the guinea pig driving the jeep
hercules (the one where newton repeats every sentence)
the Beachcombers
SCTV |
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Pooty
Joined: 15 Jun 2008 Location: Ela stin agalia mou
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:11 am Post subject: |
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This is an old song, haven't heard it in years. Whenever I see Canadians and Americans arguing, I think about the trees
There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas
The trouble with the maples
(and they're quite convinced theyre right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
But the oaks cant help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the maples
Cant be happy in their shade?
There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream `oppression!`
And the oaks, just shake their heads
So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
the oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light
Now theres no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet,
Axe,
And saw ...
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It's important to realize that not only can the maples survive in the shade, they would die without it, which proves that the maples aren't trying to get sun because they are incapable of being happy in the shade but simply because they're jealous of the inherent features of the Oak.
However, the oak has no control over these inherent features, therefore despising the oaks for their size is just senseless. When you consider that the noble law doesn't benefit the maples and is bad for the oaks it is clear that the oaks are not the instigators but the victims, and that the maples only claimed oppression because they wanted revenge on the oaks because they perceived the oaks as being happier.
And it's true that the oaks where happier before the noble law but not because they had more sun like you might think but because they where content with their circumstances, so because maples thrive in shade, and oaks in sun hence both trees had equal potential for happiness.
Clearly the moral or the song is that life can be perceived by different people (or trees) different ways so it's foolish to despise someone because you think there better off than you because more than likely they're not, they just have a more optimistic view of life.
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mises
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How about reserves with Haiti levels of third world poverty, addiction, abuse and anomie. A population that doesn't care, unless you honestly speak about the situation, in which case you get called a racist. Meanwhile, Caucasians wander around the world with a flag on their backpack, totally oblivious to the reality of their home country, telling anybody who will listen about "health care", "multiculturalism" and "diversity" --all the while pissing and moaning about Zee Americans-- without even the slightest idea if 1) the audience cares or 2) they know what they are talking about. The flag is a naked advertisement of the delusions that comprise Canadian patriotism. That defines Canada.
What were we saying about people who care about strangers? |
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Stevie_B
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Incredibly dull, stupid, boring, self-satisfied people who have failed to make the slightest difference to the world and who think that 'not being American' is somehow a laudable achievement. |
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SnowMexicans...  |
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Stevie_B
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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mises wrote: |
How about reserves with Haiti levels of third world poverty, addiction, abuse and anomie. A population that doesn't care, unless you honestly speak about the situation, in which case you get called a racist. Meanwhile, Caucasians wander around the world with a flag on their backpack, totally oblivious to the reality of their home country, telling anybody who will listen about "health care", "multiculturalism" and "diversity" --all the while pissing and moaning about Zee Americans-- without even the slightest idea if 1) the audience cares or 2) they know what they are talking about. The flag is a naked advertisement of the delusions that comprise Canadian patriotism. That defines Canada.
What were we saying about people who care about strangers? |
Amen to that. If you have a Canadian flag on anything that you own, you are basically saying: "I am a smug fucking *beep*." |
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