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TexasPete
Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Koreatown
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 Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: Sweden's Lost Its Marbles |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7479758.stm
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An eight-year-old boy has sparked an unlikely outcry in Sweden after failing to invite two of his classmates to his birthday party.
The boy's school says he has violated the children's rights and has complained to the Swedish Parliament. |
Violated a child's rights by not being invited to a party? Ask the people in Darfur, of Myanmar, or Tibet, or the Middle East, or Zimbabwe about Rights Abridgement. This is effing ridiculous. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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I think they are onto something here.
Everyone should write their congressman and demand a constitutional right to birthday party invitations. |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I'm gettin' in on this one.
I wasn't invited either. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| What should the settlement be? Cake, ice cream and a ride on a pony? |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| This is a perfect example of Liberal thinking. Everyone anbd everthing must be equal. No one can be left out. |
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TexasPete
Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Koreatown
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| Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| This is a perfect example of Liberal thinking. Everyone anbd everthing must be equal. No one can be left out. |
NO, this is an example of retarded extremism. The Right has the same shit, but a different side of the coin. Neither Left- nor Right-Wing ideology is bad in and of itself (or has sole-possession of the correct answers). The Devil's in the extremists and ideologues who unite by dividing or divide by uniting. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:10 am Post subject: |
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I dunno. If, and I say if, a child were handing out birthday invitations in such a way so as to make a few children feel deliberately excluded, and IF he were doing this on school property, I could see a case being made that the school has the right to demand that he hand out his invitations elsewhere.
The article says that the boy was distributing his invitations "during class time", which, to me, puts his actions under the jurisdiction of the teacher. You do not have an inalienable right to do anything in class that you could do outside of class.
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| He says the two children were left out because one did not invite his son to his own party and he had fallen out with the other one. |
This makes it sound as if there was a certain amount of pre-existing antagonism between the students, which the teacher may have been aware of, and wanted to prevent from escalating in the classroom.
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"No one has the right to confiscate someone's property in this way, it's like taking someone's post," he added.
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Well, the teachers used to confiscate the notes we'd pass around in junior high school. Was this a violation of our private property rights? |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:19 am Post subject: |
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This is the key paragraph.
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| The school, in Lund, southern Sweden, argues that if invitations are handed out on school premises then it must ensure there is no discrimination. |
The word discrimination there shows either 1) the other kids were muslim or other non-Swedes or 2) that showing a preference in any way is now being acknowledged as discrimination. I don't know which is more likely, but it is one of the two.
Preference, including preference for individual people, is by definition discriminatory. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| Preference, including preference for individual people, is by definition discriminatory. |
Sure. And if you do want to discriminate in such a fashion, you can still do so outside of the school grounds. I assume that Sweden still has phone books. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Your point is a technical one and I don't think anybody will disagree. The school has the right to control what happens on school property. This is fine.
The other side of this is not if they can control the school property but what they choose to control. |
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Justin Hale
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| What I bet has happened here is that the agrieved's parents are encouraging the complaint as a kind of cool educational project for their kid, expressing themselves formally. |
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pkang0202
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| This is blanket socialism being implemented at the Elementary school level. Sweden is teaching their children Communism. |
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Underwaterbob
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| This is a fairly widespread phenomenon. It's even got a name now: Kindergarchy. |
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manlyboy
Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think the school is going far enough. They should lop off the index finger of that kid so that the others who are crap at finger painting can feel more equal. |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| This is how I felt when I first read that some youth sports leagues in the US didnt keep score of the games. WTF. Whats the point? People are not now or will ever be created equal. Better to learn that as young as possible. |
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