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BritishinSuwon



Joined: 17 May 2008
Location: No longer in Suwon! Now kicking it in Shanghai

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:10 am    Post subject: Bereavement leave question Reply with quote

O.k, so after speaking to my mother, I found out that my grandmother passed away on Friday.
I'm thinking I might run into a problem at my school for asking for time off for the funeral.
Right now at my school, I am the only Western teacher. We have a new teacher scheduled to come on the 20th, but for now, it's just me.
Does anyone know just what the law states about bereavement time for employees?
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: Bereavement leave question Reply with quote

BritishinSuwon wrote:
O.k, so after speaking to my mother, I found out that my grandmother passed away on Friday.
I'm thinking I might run into a problem at my school for asking for time off for the funeral.
Right now at my school, I am the only Western teacher. We have a new teacher scheduled to come on the 20th, but for now, it's just me.
Does anyone know just what the law states about bereavement time for employees?
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks


Public school, you are entitled to time off ....
Hakwon, up to the discretion of the director/owner.

There is nothing in law.

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BritishinSuwon



Joined: 17 May 2008
Location: No longer in Suwon! Now kicking it in Shanghai

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: Bereavement leave question Reply with quote

Just as I feared...well, there's not a question in my mind as to what I'm going to do, so here's hoping my bosses don't take a hard stance on this.

Thanks Ttompatz

ttompatz wrote:
BritishinSuwon wrote:
O.k, so after speaking to my mother, I found out that my grandmother passed away on Friday.
I'm thinking I might run into a problem at my school for asking for time off for the funeral.
Right now at my school, I am the only Western teacher. We have a new teacher scheduled to come on the 20th, but for now, it's just me.
Does anyone know just what the law states about bereavement time for employees?
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks


Public school, you are entitled to time off ....
Hakwon, up to the discretion of the director/owner.

There is nothing in law.

.
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sofaking



Joined: 30 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so here's hoping my bosses don't take a hard stance on this.

My boss did four years ago. Worst part was that he was a guy I had become friends with... he even introduced my wife to me. I quit and let him know that there were times to think about his business, and times to think about his employees. Moved on to bigger and better since then.

I am sure you know what you have to do.
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BritishinSuwon



Joined: 17 May 2008
Location: No longer in Suwon! Now kicking it in Shanghai

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm hoping it doesn't get that bad, although I have a feeling it will. The only real card I hold is that I am the only Westerner there now, and hopefully that'll give her some thought if I quit. Otherwise she'll be cutting off her nose to spite her face.

I hope it doesn't get that far.

sofaking wrote:
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so here's hoping my bosses don't take a hard stance on this.

My boss did four years ago. Worst part was that he was a guy I had become friends with... he even introduced my wife to me. I quit and let him know that there were times to think about his business, and times to think about his employees. Moved on to bigger and better since then.

I am sure you know what you have to do.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: Bereavement leave question Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
There is nothing in law.

There used to be years ago. I used it to force the boss to let me go. Somewhere since then they've removed it from the lawbooks. Maybe 7 years ago, or so?

My mum passed away last summer and I called Labor to get their answer about bereavement leave, and they said it's up to the school's/company's policy or contract. Luckily my uni had such a policy I was able to follow and not fight them over this.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most should even help you book your flight. They do it all the time, so it would be cinchy for them to do you this favor. This will be a measure of their compassion.
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justaguy



Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a special situation. Law doesn't matter. This is family, and family comes first. Explain what happened to your boss, and then tell him you are going.

Koreans are usually quite understanding about these matters.

I'm sorry for your loss.
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jbpatlanta



Joined: 02 Jun 2007
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When my grandfather died, my boss started to give me a hard time. She said that if it was my mother or my father I could go no problem, but this was just my grandfather so she didn't think she could give me the time off.

I listened to her and stayed in Korea. I still regret that to this day. I should have gone and said screw the job. Don't make the same mistake.

I agree with what some others said. This is family. You can always find another job.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP,

My condolences. As has been stated, 'leave' is a matter between you and your boss.

I just found out my 83 year-old mother was admitted to hospital two days ago. Of course, I hope it's not serious. But in the event of her death according to my EPIC contract -

Article 16 (Special Leave) ① Employee may take a Special Leave for a number of days as set forth below for each of the following events:
1. Seven (7) calendar days for Employee's marriage.
2. Seven (7) calendar days for the death of Employee's parent or spouse; five (5) calendar days for the death of Employee's child.
3. In case of a female Employee, ninety (90) calendar days for a maternity leave.
② Special leaves specified in items ① are available with pay. However, maternity leave shall be available with pay for only the first sixty days.

Apparently, grandparents are worth nothing and a child is not worth as much as a parent or spouse.
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bliss



Joined: 24 Sep 2007
Location: Gyeonggi

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:22 am    Post subject: Why don't you advertise for a substitute? Reply with quote

Why don't you advertise for a substitute?

I'm sure you will be able to find someone who can fill-in for a few days - either part-time or full-time.

Just write up an ad and post it on www.worknplay.co.kr or www.englishspectrum.co.kr or any other of the numerous websites.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my grandfather passed away last month. my public high school was really generous. it 'helped' that i was ridiculously emotional, i suppose. explain the situation. call someone. even today. i wouldn't wait until tomorrow. i wound up with about 5 days off. (one the day i found out he was in hospice care, one the day i found out that he had about a week to go, and three when he died. it was a horrible 10 days.)
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Scarlet13



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jbpatlanta wrote:
When my grandfather died, my boss started to give me a hard time. She said that if it was my mother or my father I could go no problem, but this was just my grandfather so she didn't think she could give me the time off.

I listened to her and stayed in Korea. I still regret that to this day. I should have gone and said screw the job. Don't make the same mistake.

I agree with what some others said. This is family. You can always find another job.


My grandfather died suddenly on Wednesday, one week before I am due to arrive home Sad They did the funeral on Friday, they couldn't wait for me to get home. My school was really great to me, they gave me some time off so I could sit at home and get myself together. I just told them I couldn't teach in my condition, especially since my first day back had me explaining family trees, and having to draw mine on the board..."O teacher what does grandfather do?" Sad
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am pretty amazed at how connected some posters are/were to their grandparents.

I never shed a tear that mine died. They were old and I figured it was for the best. They were both in the hospital when they died, not healthy, so my family had hoped they would pass on rather than live in pain.

I never thought about going back for a funeral.

To the OP if it means that much to you, do it. If one of my parents were to die, I'd be on the first flight I could get on as they mean that much to me.
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

English jobs in korea are a dime a dozen. Who cares what you boss thinks. If your family is important to you, leave. If not, then stay. Not one person here should worry about what their boss will do.
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