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nicholas_chiasson



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: NK forces shoot SK tourist Reply with quote

from Chosun Ilbo-Korean Version-Babel Fished
4:00 a.m. 30 minutes on the 11th Mount Geumgang tourists from a beach near a golf course teukgunae bakwangja (Travel and Tourism, Seoul, 53, female) was shot and killed the North Koreans.



According to authorities and the Hyundai Asan Park Geumgang beach at dawn to walk alone in goseongeup toward civilian control section of fence is to skip the shooting was reported.



North Korea, "Park was suspended several times despite the command and continue neomeowa fire warning shots," said the position announced.



Hyundai Asan officials at 9:00 a.m. at the scene about 20 minutes to receive the advice of the North Park's body out of apprenticeships. Around 1 pm North-South Park's body through the exit and entry office in Sokcho neomeowa Sokcho enshrined in the hospital.



Unification 4:00 p.m. accident on October 11 to explain plans for the inspectors.



Unification Ministry and relevant agencies such as Ybor City Police Department to uncover the exact cause of the accident plan for a joint investigation.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a serious case of Konglish you posted. It gives me a headache to read stuff as bad as that.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might be easier for people to understand:

A North Korean soldier gunned down a 53-year-old South Korean woman tourist who wandered into a military area at a mountain resort in the North in the predawn hours of Friday, a South Korean official said.

The woman identified by her family name Park, was killed in an incident that comes as ties between the two states have chilled since a new South Korean president took office in February promising to get tough with Pyongyang.

Park was strolling on a beach and entered a fenced-off North Korean military area near the Mount Kumgang resort, just north of the border on the east coast, and was shot in her torso and leg by a sentry, the official said.

South Korea will halt tourism to the resort from Saturday, Unification Ministry official Kim Ho-nyoun told a news conference.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080711/wl_nm/korea_north_shooting_dc&printer=1;_ylt=AhrOMdc2qB_AcfWXAxQ_92Jn.3QA


I doubt this will turn out to be much of a story because of this: "(The ministry) needs to confirm reports of whether the women climbed the fence," Kim said.
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Gwangjuboy



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:


I doubt this will turn out to be much of a story because of this: "(The ministry) needs to confirm reports of whether the women climbed the fence," Kim said.


It's unlike me to say this, but if she was climbing a fence, that was an act of gross stupidity on her part. I still think the shooting was disproportionate but if it was a sensitive area it completely changes the dynamics of the story.
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um, I'm thinking it must not have been a very big fence. The woman was 53 ...

Mentioned it to a Korean friend this evening, and "What? There was an accident?"

Had to laugh. "Well, considering these are soldiers and they pretty much spend all their time training to kill South Koreans ... 'accident' isn't quite the word I'd use."
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Um, I'm thinking it must not have been a very big fence. The woman was 53 ...


Well, an average 53 year-old tourist likely wouldn't try to scale a large fence, obviously. Which raises the question I guess as to whether or not this was in fact an average 53 year-old tourist, or someone who went up there with some sort of agenda.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since when did ajummas listen to anyone? Especially a 22 year old soldier.


On the other hand wrote:
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Um, I'm thinking it must not have been a very big fence. The woman was 53 ...


Well, an average 53 year-old tourist likely wouldn't try to scale a large fence, obviously. Which raises the question I guess as to whether or not this was in fact an average 53 year-old tourist, or someone who went up there with some sort of agenda.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but if she was climbing a fence, that was an act of gross stupidity on her part. I still think the shooting was disproportionate but if it was a sensitive area it completely changes the dynamics of the story.


Yes, I agree. That's why I don't think it will make a big story here. People are going to ask, "What the heck did she think she was doing climbing a fence?"

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Which raises the question I guess as to whether or not this was in fact an average 53 year-old tourist, or someone who went up there with some sort of agenda.


This also crossed my mind. It's only been a couple of months since that guy was sent home from Russia for stealing space secrets. Given the penchant for assigning completely untrained people to responsible positions, I wouldn't be shocked to learn that she'd been told to collect some information.

Does anyone else get headaches from trying to explain the difference between accidents and incidents, especially incidents that start accidentally?
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read they are going to suspend tours to Mount Geumgang, but the day tours to Kaesong will continue. I tend to agree, this isn't going to be a very big deal.
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ReeseDog



Joined: 05 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two thoughts:

1. The Nork soldier who shot her is probably pig shit by now.

2. Bad Americans! Imperialist capitalist bastards were behind this invasion!
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I read they are going to suspend tours to Mount Geumgang


The report I read somewhere said the 13,000 tourists there on Friday were being brought back Friday/Saturday.

A couple of weeks ago I went over there to the DMZ and looked through the rain. The highway was deserted. My friend says it always is. The only vehicles that use it are the tour buses and the Nork military. The same day we visited the northern-most artillery battery along the coast. Eerie feeling to stand there knowing that that spot would be the first place attacked if the North came across the DMZ along the east coast. In the meantime, rest well knowing the boys have a noraebang (4' X 4') while they wait. I turned down a taste of their evening meal--a pot of rice and some kind of soup and nothing else. [/quote]
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My theory:

Suicide by Cop.

But since the K-Cops are armed with pellet guns I think, they won't do.

Enter:

Suicide by North Korean Soldier.
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manlyboy



Joined: 01 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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but if she was climbing a fence, that was an act of gross stupidity on her part. I still think the shooting was disproportionate but if it was a sensitive area it completely changes the dynamics of the story.


Yes, I agree. That's why I don't think it will make a big story here. People are going to ask, "What the heck did she think she was doing climbing a fence?"


You're expecting South Koreans will react rationally? That they won't make a big deal of it based on logical thinking?
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Yeah. I know it's hard to believe, especially for those whose source of impressions of Korea come mainly from middle schoolers and the media, but my experience here has led me to believe that public opinion is complex and not just groupthink like is so often claimed here at Dave's.
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From MSNBC...

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Yonhap news agency cited a tourist who returned from the resort Friday as saying he saw a middle-aged woman dressed in black walking along the beach before hearing two gunshots and a scream about 10 minutes later.

�When I looked at the direction where the gunshots were heard, there was one person collapsed and three soldiers ran out of a forest and touched the person with their feet as if trying to see if that person is alive,� Yonhap quoted 23-year-old Lee In-bok, a college student, as saying.



So, this guy says that the incident happened on a beach, and that he was able to see it. Does this contradict the Norks' claim that the incident happened deep in an area that was under military control?

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But in the statement from a North Korean tourism bureau, Pyongyang said the tourist �intruded deep into the area under the military control of the North side all alone at dawn,� noting that even her �shoes got wet.�



Or was the military zone actually on the beach, close enough to be seen by the other tourist?

And if this IS a case of epsionage gone wrong, it's possible that the other tourist was in on it, and would be tailoring his story to make the dead woman look innocent. Not that I'm really pushing the espionage theory, just that I don't think it can be completely ruled out.

http://tinyurl.com/5lcswg
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