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bassexpander
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 Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: Jesse Jackson uses the "N" word against Obama |
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Do as I say, not as I do...?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/16/jackson.nword.ap/index.html
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CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- The Rev. Jesse Jackson used the N-word during a break in a TV interview where he criticized presidential candidate Barack Obama, Fox News confirmed Wednesday.
The Rev. Jesse Jackson apologized to Sen. Obama's campaign last week over "hurtful" remarks.
The longtime civil rights leader already came under fire this month for crude off-air comments he made against Obama in what he thought was a private conversation during a taping of a "Fox & Friends" news show.
In additional comments from that same conversation, first reported by TVNewser, Jackson is reported to have said Obama was "talking down to black people," and referred to blacks with the N-word when he said Obama was telling them "how to behave."
Though a Fox spokesman confirmed to The Associated Press that Jackson used the slur, the network declined to release the full transcript of the July 6 show and did not air the comments.
Jackson, who is now traveling in Spain, apologized in a statement last Wednesday for "hurtful words" but didn't offer specifics.
"I am deeply saddened and distressed by the pain and sorrow that I have caused as a result of my hurtful words. I apologize again to Senator Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, their children as well as to the American public," Jackson said in a written statement.
"There really is no justification for my comments and I hope that the Obama family and the American public will forgive me. I also pray that we, as a nation, can move on to address the real issues that affect the American people."
A spokeswoman for Jackson's civil rights organization, Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, said she could not confirm that Jackson used the slur. |
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billybrobby
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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I saw the part of that video that they aired. He's basically whispering, talking out of the corner of this mouth to some other black dude. I guess he figured the mic couldn't pick it up. Pretty boneheaded considering that he had to have known that Fox News would love to skewer him. But it's not like he got on the air and said, "I wanna cut that nigger's nuts off!"
It'd be one thing if he said that stuff as a public statement. But I think he just said those statements as a private individual and I don't see anything wrong with it.
As far as the N-word goes, that's up to black people to decide whether they want to say it to each other or not. I don't really care. |
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bassexpander
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
It'd be one thing if he said that stuff as a public statement. But I think he just said those statements as a private individual and I don't see anything wrong with it.
As far as the N-word goes, that's up to black people to decide whether they want to say it to each other or not. I don't really care. |
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aarontendo
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like Obama needs to distance himself from Jackson then. If someone in McCain's camp had said you'd bet Jackson and that other ambulance chaser Al Sharpton would be bitching already.
Obama doesn't need enemies, he's got enough of his close allies skewering him heh. |
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IncognitoHFX
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| aarontendo wrote: |
| Looks like Obama needs to distance himself from Jackson then. |
Did you know? Jesse Jackson is the King of Black People.  |
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aarontendo
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
| aarontendo wrote: |
| Looks like Obama needs to distance himself from Jackson then. |
Did you know? Jesse Jackson is the King of Black People. |
Heh basically. He's not a bad guy, but definitely needs to bow outta the spotlight he's not cut out for it. He should just go back to talking about hymietown I guess. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Who are those who most often, and indeed regularly, if not daily, use this "offensive" word in America today...?
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| Warning: This report is about the rapper Nas and his controversial album. It contains language you may find offensive, including the n-word, which was originally the title of the album. Since this story is about his use of the word in his songs but not on his album, should you continue reading, we must warn you that we have included the word in the story... |
CNN Reports
And asserting that some, based on their race, can say this word with impunity, while others, based on their race, may never say this word, strikes me as the essence of race-based discrimination, or simply "racism."
The word is either "offensive" or it is not. No double-standards, please.
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IncognitoHFX
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| aarontendo wrote: |
| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
| aarontendo wrote: |
| Looks like Obama needs to distance himself from Jackson then. |
Did you know? Jesse Jackson is the King of Black People. |
Heh basically. He's not a bad guy, but definitely needs to bow outta the spotlight he's not cut out for it. He should just go back to talking about hymietown I guess. |
He has the attitude of a civil rights activist from a time long ago. It doesn't really feel right these days when you listen to him talk, and I bet a lot of politically active black people would feel the same way. He's not a bad guy, agreed, but he sounds like a voice from a long time ago. It's time for someone modern to take his place... someone like... Barrack Obama. 
Not presuming I know all that much about black rights, I'm just pointing out the obvious.
...and yes, Obama does talk down to the population. Not just black people, but everybody. I fail to see how this is a bad thing. He can carry his own weight, he doesn't need to look to the population constantly for approval. I think Obama knows what people want without having to be told. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
| As far as the N-word goes, that's up to black people to decide whether they want to say it to each other or not. I don't really care. |
By the way, here is what one prominent African-American entertainer and long-time activist has to say about it...
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Q: You mentioned you are a fan of Nas. What do you think of the whole controversy about him initially wanting to title his new album the N-word?
Wonder: I'm not with the word only in that we had buried the word and it should have been buried. People say well we use it for fun and whatever. I'm not really feeling it and I know sometimes it comes in conversation ... For all the pain that has happened over the years, what that word brings up, it needs to go away. |
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billybrobby
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| billybrobby wrote: |
| As far as the N-word goes, that's up to black people to decide whether they want to say it to each other or not. I don't really care. |
By the way, here is what one prominent African-American entertainer and long-time activist has to say about it...
| Stevie Wonder wrote: |
Q: You mentioned you are a fan of Nas. What do you think of the whole controversy about him initially wanting to title his new album the N-word?
Wonder: I'm not with the word only in that we had buried the word and it should have been buried. People say well we use it for fun and whatever. I'm not really feeling it and I know sometimes it comes in conversation ... For all the pain that has happened over the years, what that word brings up, it needs to go away. |
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Gopher, please! Your argument about "no double standards" is silly. If you don't see the reason behind the double standard, you're living on another planet (i.e. Canada -- Hey, we're diverse too! We've got Asians!). Stevie Wonder can say what we wants. He makes a good point. And other black will keep saying nigger. My point is just that it's something black people can work out amongst themselves. I know I won't be saying the word, and I won't chafe at the woefully injust double standard that bars me from it. |
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mises
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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BFD. Black people have more than one set of political opinions. Is this surprising?
Obama is a major threat to the President for Life of the Peoples Republic Of Himself Jessie Jackson (as Steyn called him). When a black man is elected by a majority white country, you can't cry racism every time you stub your toe. In addition, like the Koreans, I'm sure blacks don't like their dirty laundry being aired. As if we didn't know. |
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mrgiles
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| When a black man is elected by a majority white country, you can't cry racism every time you stub your toe. |
what a pernicious tendency this comment expresses. so if a black man gets elected, any time an act of racism oppresses a member of society, one could make the following argument: "it can't be racist. look; we've got a black president"? |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
BFD. Black people have more than one set of political opinions. Is this surprising?
Obama is a major threat to the President for Life of the Peoples Republic Of Himself Jessie Jackson (as Steyn called him). When a black man is elected by a majority white country, you can't cry racism every time you stub your toe. In addition, like the Koreans, I'm sure blacks don't like their dirty laundry being aired. As if we didn't know. |
Just because a president is black doesn't mean there aren't serious problems when it comes to race relations stemming from both African Americans and Caucasians. Racism is still a major issue, and it is as simple as you make it out to be. Bahrain has a Jewish official, does that mean there isn't prejudice against Jews there? America has female politicians that have been elected. Should we eliminate all laws that deal with sexism now because of that?
As far as Jesse Jackson, saying what he said even if the microphone didn't pick it up is very offensive. Of course, blacks don't want their dirty laundry aired, especially since they are a minority, but Obama and Cosby spoke about confronting certain problems in the African American community. |
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mises
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| mrgiles wrote: |
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| When a black man is elected by a majority white country, you can't cry racism every time you stub your toe. |
what a pernicious tendency this comment expresses. so if a black man gets elected, any time an act of racism oppresses a member of society, one could make the following argument: "it can't be racist. look; we've got a black president"? |
The example I made was stubbing ones toe, or the tendency of the grievance industry to find racism when they look for it and not necessarily where it actually exists. |
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IncognitoHFX
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Wheel of Fortune.
People that annoy you:
N_GGERS
"N*GGERS!"
"No, sorry, the correct answer was: NAGGERS". |
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