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Americans investing in the stock market from Korea?

 
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inthewild



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Americans investing in the stock market from Korea? Reply with quote

If you use an online broker, which one and why?

I pay $20 a trade and can do better/cheaper.

What kind of taxes do you pay on your gains? Why? It gets a bit confusing because your paycheck may be coming from Korea so what tax bracket does that put you in for the States on capital gains...?

Any other tips you want to throw out there are welcome.

Thanks.


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michael5799042



Joined: 16 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Interactive Brokers. Way cheaper.
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inthewild



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what have you had to deal with come tax day?
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gmat



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I pay $20 a trade and can do better/cheaper.


WTF??? Does it come with a blow job?

www.interactivebrokers.com
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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you want to buy US shares??

The US market is on a slump "Drunk and Hungover" as Bush says...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7522335.stm

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The question is, how long will it sober up and not try to do all these fancy financial instruments?" the president asks in the clip.

The White House has issued a more prosaic explanation of his comments.

"He has said before that Wall Street was dealing with very complex financial instruments and that the markets didn't fully understand the risks that those instruments posed to the system," said spokeswoman Dana Perino.
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toong tao daeng



Joined: 18 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

$20/ trade is pretty high.

I think you'll find day trading somewhat difficult because of the time difference. But if you're investing for the long haul, this shouldn't be a concern.
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newton kabiddles



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use etrade, it's 10 bucks a trade. If you're an American overseas you add up your total income and pay taxes on anything over... somewhere around 88K. I don't know the exact amount as I was not exempt.
Americans have to pay 5% or 15% on capital gains from securities held longer than one year; the two lower overall income brackets pay 5% - everyone else pays 15%. If your captial gains are from stocks held less than a year you pay the rate according to your overall income. Fed tax rates range from 0-35%.
Example: If you make 3k a month in Korea you can make an additional 50k a year in the stock market and not pay any fed tax.
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SirFink



Joined: 05 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday wrote:
Why would you want to buy US shares??

The US market is on a slump "


Indeed. Why would you want to buy shares when their prices are so low? Gee, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Rolling Eyes And stock available for sale through a US broker US stock exchange is not of US companies only. I've purchased stock in Japan, Russia, Brazil, Canada... and yes, even the dreaded and doomed USA.

I use www.zecco.com -- ten free trades a month as long as you maintain a balance of $2500 or more. Even if you don't put a dime of it into the stock market it sits in a money market gaining interest. You could also just buy gold or other commodities through zecco if you wanted to stay out of stocks.
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inthewild



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea I was going to say... more than a few stocks that are still too high but it's alot easier to find a bargain than it was at the start of the year.

I'm younger and made a couple mistakes leading to an unrealized loss a few years ago but I've learned from it and recovered nicely this year thanks to the dips in the market recently.

Zecco doesn't charge some kind of annual fee that I can't find in the small print, does it?

"Example: If you make 3k a month in Korea you can make an additional 50k a year in the stock market and not pay any fed tax."

That example is just for stocks held over one year, right?
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SirFink



Joined: 05 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inthewild wrote:

Zecco doesn't charge some kind of annual fee that I can't find in the small print, does it?


No annual fee. It gets more complicated if you start messing with options or buy on margin and so on but I just stick with buying stock with cash and have had no problems. Totally recommend it for the small-time investor as even a $7-$10 trade fee can completely devour any profit you might have gained from making a small trade via E-Trade or one of the other brokers who nickel-and-dime you to death.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A warning about online brokers....

My brother has had a HELL of a time getting his money out of his online broker. I forget the name of it now, but it's one of the top 3 in the USA (I know it's not Scottrade). He was able to get them to sell everything off, but to get the money out of the account and back into his bank required everything but a blood submission. I can't imagine going through all that he did from overseas.

He's a lawyer, by the way... and he knows what he is doing.

After hearing his story, I would take great care in finding out what it takes to get your money out of their accounts and back into your own hands!
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inthewild



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gmat wrote:
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I pay $20 a trade and can do better/cheaper.


WTF??? Does it come with a blow job?

www.interactivebrokers.com


No head but they've given me quality customer support and it's extremely easy to transfer money to and from that account (from another US bank I got set up...). I've also got an international check card from them. The website is great and because I set up bank transfers online and the card, I've never had the trouble bass was warning about.

That being said, I'll keep a large portion there but for active trading I'll look into zecco and interactivebrokers. PM me if you want to know who I use but I'd only recommend them if you've got a bunch of money to put in with them.
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