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R. S. Refugee

Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Location: Shangra La, ROK
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: GEPIK: Ever been refused your airfare bonus for renewing? |
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I was.
This is pretty clearly a serious (i.e., it's costing me a significant amount of money) contract violation.
Has anyone had any positive experiences with Dain Bae in getting her to advocate for them in such a situation with their school? |
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agoodmouse

Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Location: Anyang
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Call her immediately. She has advocated for people in the past. This is a clear violation of contract terms. Update us. |
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Countrygirl
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Location: in the classroom
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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I was refused the 100K contract payraise, but that is a grey area in the contract. I kept the job because I had already paid for the airfare for the homeleave and I would have lost out more if I had quit.
There should be no way that the school can refuse to pay your airfare as per the contract. You should get paid within 15 days of when you come back from your home leave.
Yes, keep us updated.
(I really don't understand why management at these schools can't see that they will spend the same or more to get a new teacher and that this penny pinching just leads to bad feelings.) |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| My home-leave airfare is gonna cost my school 2.4mill. Gonna buy the tic this week and submit copy of it and the receipt...then go back to the airline and get it refunded. Direct flights to JFK r quite expensive at the moment. Remember, they owe u a round trip DIRECT (non-stop) flight (if ur renewing) to the airport closest to ur home. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Countrygirl wrote: |
I was refused the 100K contract payraise, but that is a grey area in the contract. I kept the job because I had already paid for the airfare for the homeleave and I would have lost out more if I had quit.
There should be no way that the school can refuse to pay your airfare as per the contract. You should get paid within 15 days of when you come back from your home leave.
Yes, keep us updated.
(I really don't understand why management at these schools can't see that they will spend the same or more to get a new teacher and that this penny pinching just leads to bad feelings.) |
You might want to read this post.
Has Your K-Boss Ever Screwed You Out Of Money?
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=129843&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
Foreign Scholars Merit Equal Status
JoongAng Daily (June 14, 2002)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=1904927
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Foreign professors tend to be treated as hired hands, without academic standing, and lacking the possibility of career advancement or tenure. They must submit to yearly contracts (compensated at a rate only 60 percent of their Korean peers) while walled off from the permanent Korean faculty who benefit from travel, research funding, sabbaticals, etc....
According to the Samsung Group's chairman, Lee Kun-hee, to succeed globally, Korea must forgo the thought that Korea and being Korean is superior, and foreign specialists must be treated with respect.... |
Foreigners Experience Difficulties in Living in Korea
by Jae-Dong Yu and Soo-Jung Shin, Donga.com (July 4, 2004)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004070522448
Discrimination Persists as Foreign Population Grows
By Kim Soe-jung, JoongAng Daily (September 3, 2007)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2880037
Foreign Residents Face Discrimination
In Riding Subways, Opening Web Sites, and Getting License
By Kim Tae-jong, The Korea Times (May 31, 2007)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/05/113_3819.html
Banks Cite Non-existent Law on Expat Cards
By Kim Soe-jung and Park Yeon-soo, JoongAng Daily (January 28, 2008)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2885625
UN Concern at 'Ethnocentric' Korea
Chosun Ilbo (August 20, 2007)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200708/200708200011.html
Most Foreign Firms Find Korea Less Than Friendly
Cho Hyeong-rae, Chosun Ilbo (April 24, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200504/200504240010.html
How often are foreign English teachers paid late?
Poll: Have you been paid late in Korea?
Never - I must be lucky! 32% [ 48 ]
Once or twice - no big deal, minor annoyance.. 21% [ 31 ]
Several times - hate it! 20% [ 30 ]
Several times - but I understand the culture, doesn't bother me... 4% [ 7 ]
Many times - sigh... 16% [ 24 ]
WTF! I've never been paid on time! ARGH!!! 4% [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 147
From the Job Discussion Board, last post seen on Aug 16, 2007
the thread or topic was deleted or moved
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=18732
Late pay... worth the wait?
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=37989
Are the salary and benefits of Korean teachers sometimes late or denied? What is their status in most public schools or universities?
Teachers' salaries -- From The Economist (Sep 27th 2007)
http://www.economist.com/markets/indicators/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9867632
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| Teaching in Turkey and South Korea has a very high status, with earnings more than double the average income per head.... |
image link: http://media.economist.com/images/20070929/CIN080.gif
For Korea, the ratio of teacher's salary after 15 years of experience to GDP per capita is 2.33.
Source: What are teacher salaries? Education at a Glance 2007, OECD
http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/36/1/39290909.xls
Teacher Labor Markets in Developed Countries
The Future of Children
http://www.futureofchildren.org/information2850/information_show.htm?doc_id=470797
image link: http://www.futureofchildren.org/doc_img/470797.gif
How transparent is your school or university? Do you know all the allowances and benefits paid to full-time teachers? Do you even know who to ask or where to look for information on benefits and allowances?
Transparency International Says Korea's Corruption Worsens
By Kim Tae-jong, Korea Times (September 26, 2007)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/09/117_10820.html
A society awash in scandal
Corruption is common in South Korea, where competition is ruthless and success means all
Bruce Wallace, Los Angeles Times via Toronto Star (December 07, 2007)
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/283425
Deception Sums Up Year of 2007
By Kim Tae-jong, Korea Times (December 23, 2007)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/12/117_16011.html |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| spliff wrote: |
| Remember, they owe u a round trip DIRECT (non-stop) flight (if ur renewing) to the airport closest to ur home. |
I think, when you say "non-stop" you mean "no layover", no? For me to go home, it is simply impossible to get a non-stop flight to the airport closest to my home (in my case, Buffalo Airport). I have to change planes a minimum of 2 times: Narita and Chicago/Detroit/Minneapolis. But it's all one flight. |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok...u have to stop to get a local connection but u shouldn't have to stop at Narita. Korean air has non-stop to jfk and that's what I'm going with. Of course I could get cheaper ticket if I had to stop in Japan or Anchorage or somewhere but that wouldn't be a direct fligh, now would it? BTW, I've flown in and out of Buffalo airport many times on a friends twin engine plane in the dead of winter in heavy snows. Many times u could just barely make out the runway. |
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losing_touch

Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Location: Ulsan - I think!
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| As a former travel agent, there is a common misconception about the terms used in the airline industry. I assumed spliff knew this by putting non-stop in parenthesis. Non-Stop refers to just that. The plane does not stop. Direct refers to a flight that stops along the way, but it is not needed to change planes. Connecting flights are such that you must switch planes. This is common knowledge for travel agents, but the information is not widely disseminated. =) |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Fook! How can u tell whether ur flight is direct or not? |
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