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How do you tell a man to stop beating his wife?
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maddog



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aarontendo wrote:
What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?


Nothing. She's already been told twice.
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ceadem



Joined: 11 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maddog wrote:
aarontendo wrote:
What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?


Nothing. She's already been told twice.


Laughing that's pretty funny.
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Rob'sdad



Joined: 12 May 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been a victim of assault also. My Korean wife destroyed the following on my head....
1. Alarm Clock
2. Cell phone
3. Lunch box (I was not satisfied with the contents)

In all fairness, I'll include her retort, "It was your fault. You made me mad."
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob'sdad wrote:
I've been a victim of assault also. My Korean wife destroyed the following on my head....
1. Alarm Clock
2. Cell phone
3. Lunch box (I was not satisfied with the contents)

In all fairness, I'll include her retort, "It was your fault. You made me mad."

Had I been you, the incident with the lunch box would never have happened. I don't tolerate violence or abuse of any kind in my relationships. If it happens once, I can write it off as extreme emotion or an accident or whatever, but I'll make it clear that it is NOT acceptable and it will never happen again...ever...without consequences. One free pass with me, but I'm out the door and won't look back with the second.
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What has a woman and a computer got in common?

You have to punch information into both!

Laughing

Relax folks - I have only hit a woman once - that was my sister and she beat the tar out of me! Embarassed
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rebel_1812



Joined: 17 May 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes there is alot of abuse in korea towards wives, girlfriends, sons, daughters, students, foreigners.... etc
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rebel_1812 wrote:
Yes there is alot of abuse in korea towards wives, girlfriends, sons, daughters, students, foreigners.... etc


How about cats? dogs? Parrots? rats? magpies? horses? Maybe even ants.

Rolling Eyes

Better practise your trolling a bit harder mate. Laughing
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Guri Guy



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Myself and some Korean guys caught and chased off some *sshole that was beating up his girlfriend or some random woman tonight. He was beating the crap out of her in the fire escape of the same building as my gym. Gutless puke comes to mind.
I know this happens in Canada where I come from but it is very common in my experience here. I have seen it too much here and it saddens me greatly. Sad
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Lekker



Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guri Guy wrote:
Myself and some Korean guys caught and chased off some *sshole that was beating up his girlfriend or some random woman tonight. He was beating the crap out of her in the fire escape of the same building as my gym. Gutless puke comes to mind.
I know this happens in Canada where I come from but it is very common in my experience here. I have seen it too much here and it saddens me greatly. Sad


Yeah, and it's really nothing to laugh at, like a lot of people on here as well as off of here do. Women get beat all the time by their husbands and nobody helps them, instead they just watch or walk away and "ignore" it and let someone else deal with it, or they "don't intervene" because they "aren't the same race" as the woman who is getting beat. Why would you laugh at that? You got some issues. Grow the *beep* up.
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Guri Guy



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly. Domestic violence is a big problem in South Korea. That and violence against women. I have seen it countless times. Sad It certainly is nothing to laugh at.
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ytuque



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In such a situation, would a Korean woman want a stranger, especially a foreigner, to intervene? Back in the 50's, my father was a US soldier stationed here. He knocked out a Korean man who was beating a woman on a street corner in Seoul. The only thanks that he received from the woman was a slap in the face.

Do you think anything has changed?
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ytuque wrote:
The only thanks that he received from the woman was a slap in the face.


Its accepted as normal in this society. Its a private matter, a bonding experience for couples. So if someone intervenes they are rudely interfering in something that doesn't concern them. its a highly emotional experience for the both of them, and they don't want anyone spoiling their moment.
they resent foreigners doing anything here. Even saving their lives.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nautilus wrote:


Its accepted as normal in this society. Its a private matter, a bonding experience for couples. So if someone intervenes they are rudely interfering in something that doesn't concern them. its a highly emotional experience for the both of them, and they don't want anyone spoiling their moment.
they resent foreigners doing anything here. Even saving their lives.


What makes those remarks so disgusting is the amount of truth in them.
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komerican



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guri Guy wrote:
Myself and some Korean guys caught and chased off some *sshole that was beating up his girlfriend or some random woman tonight. He was beating the crap out of her in the fire escape of the same building as my gym. Gutless puke comes to mind.
I know this happens in Canada where I come from but it is very common in my experience here. I have seen it too much here and it saddens me greatly. Sad



Violence against women is much worse in the West.

You see it more in Korea because of higher population densities in Korea. Also, in the West violence against women is hidden since it occurs mostly in suburbs out of view of the public.

I posted before on the astronomic figures for assault in the West. Many of those assaults are of course against women. Also, in the West homicide the No. 1 cause of death for pregnant women. How are westerners going to stop violence in Korea when they have this terrible record in their home countries? Westerners tend to blame minorities for this but the stats show that the high level of violence against women is the same in all the English speaking countries.



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1349613/posts

"When we think of all the other things that cause women to die during pregnancy, such as infection or hemorrhaging, the fact that homicide far outweighs those things tells you it's a significant problem," said Phyllis Sharps, an associate professor at the Johns Hopkins University's school of nursing who researches violence against women.

Many women who are pregnant or have just delivered a baby and are fleeing an abusive partner find their way to The Family Place in Dallas, a domestic violence shelter, said Executive Director Paige Flink. "Where we think it's a time where women should be revered and taken care of, these men think it's taking the focus off of them," Ms. Flink said. "Sometimes it's a question of jealousy or paternity."

Two studies published in recent years have shed light on the problem of maternal homicides: A 2003 study in the American College of Nurse-Midwives' Journal of Midwifery & Women's Health identified homicide as the leading cause of death among pregnant women. That conclusion also was reached in a study published in 2001 in the Journal of the American Medical Association. In January, after studying death records across the country, The Washington Post reported that 1,367 pregnant women and new mothers had been murdered since 1990.



http://www.aph.gov.au/library/INTGUIDE/SP/ViolenceAgainstWomen.htm

"From the 2005 survey the ABS estimated that in the previous 12 months:

363 000 women (4.7 per cent of all women) experienced physical violence; and
126 100 women (1.6 per cent) experienced sexual violence.
The ABS further estimated that:

2.56 million (33 per cent of all women) have experienced physical violence since the age of 15; and ?/li>
1.47 million (19 per cent) have experienced sexual violence since the age of 15. "
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

komerican wrote:
Guri Guy wrote:
Myself and some Korean guys caught and chased off some *sshole that was beating up his girlfriend or some random woman tonight. He was beating the crap out of her in the fire escape of the same building as my gym. Gutless puke comes to mind.
I know this happens in Canada where I come from but it is very common in my experience here. I have seen it too much here and it saddens me greatly. Sad



Violence against women is much worse in the West.

You see it more in Korea because of higher population densities in Korea. Also, in the West violence against women is hidden since it occurs mostly in suburbs out of view of the public.

I posted before on the astronomic figures for assault in the West. Many of those assaults are of course against women. Also, in the West homicide the No. 1 cause of death for pregnant women. How are westerners going to stop violence in Korea when they have this terrible record in their home countries? Westerners tend to blame minorities for this but the stats show that the high level of violence against women is the same in all the English speaking countries.



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1349613/posts

"When we think of all the other things that cause women to die during pregnancy, such as infection or hemorrhaging, the fact that homicide far outweighs those things tells you it's a significant problem," said Phyllis Sharps, an associate professor at the Johns Hopkins University's school of nursing who researches violence against women.

Many women who are pregnant or have just delivered a baby and are fleeing an abusive partner find their way to The Family Place in Dallas, a domestic violence shelter, said Executive Director Paige Flink. "Where we think it's a time where women should be revered and taken care of, these men think it's taking the focus off of them," Ms. Flink said. "Sometimes it's a question of jealousy or paternity."

Two studies published in recent years have shed light on the problem of maternal homicides: A 2003 study in the American College of Nurse-Midwives' Journal of Midwifery & Women's Health identified homicide as the leading cause of death among pregnant women. That conclusion also was reached in a study published in 2001 in the Journal of the American Medical Association. In January, after studying death records across the country, The Washington Post reported that 1,367 pregnant women and new mothers had been murdered since 1990.



http://www.aph.gov.au/library/INTGUIDE/SP/ViolenceAgainstWomen.htm

"From the 2005 survey the ABS estimated that in the previous 12 months:

363 000 women (4.7 per cent of all women) experienced physical violence; and
126 100 women (1.6 per cent) experienced sexual violence.
The ABS further estimated that:

2.56 million (33 per cent of all women) have experienced physical violence since the age of 15; and ?/li>
1.47 million (19 per cent) have experienced sexual violence since the age of 15. "


Dude, most of live in Korea. Whom do you think you're fooling? I won't say that violence towards women in the west doesn't exist, perhaps even to a considerable extent, and of course statistics on such things are pretty well impossible to gather objectively. But social attitudes about it are undeniably different. Granted, Koreans are much more physical in their interaction with people they know, and up to a point there's nothing necessarily wrong with that; however, there's a 'that's their own matter' attitude here that absolutely does not exist amongst the moral majority in English speaking countries.

I'll give you an example of what I mean. Say I google 'police domestic violence policy'. Look at what I get from every corner of the English-speaking world: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=police+domestic+violence+policy . Could you show me their Korean equivalents?
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