| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
|
 Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: 80% of English Teachers Should be Fired |
 |
|
80% of Korean teachers should be fired for being completely useless with the English langauge (okay, I'm being nice. It's about 95%)
80% of Foreign English teachers should be fired for not caring and not putting much effort into their work.
Fair assessment? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
spyro25
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| you can say that for people in most industries though. 80% of the human race is generally worthless. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
potblackettle
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| spyro25 wrote: |
| you can say that for people in most industries though. 80% of the human race is generally worthless. |
I'm with him. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Cannon fodder in the upcoming water wars. Thats a use. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
potblackettle
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| jkelly80 wrote: |
| Cannon fodder in the upcoming water wars. Thats a use. |
I just consider most people as being put on earth to amuse me. But then I'm a bit of a solipsist.  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: Re: 80% of English Teachers Should be Fired |
|
|
| Newbie wrote: |
80% of Korean teachers should be fired for being completely useless with the English langauge (okay, I'm being nice. It's about 95%)
80% of Foreign English teachers should be fired for not caring and not putting much effort into their work.
Fair assessment? |
Probably. I'd say that the number of FTs who would care if their work situations weren't so bad or ridiculous would be a bit higher than 20%. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
denistron
Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Location: Busan
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| The cup is half full y'all. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
HijackedTwilight
Joined: 15 Jan 2008
Location: Daegu
|
| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The numbers may be about right in terms of professionalism, but you don't get fired just because you're unprofessional. You only get fired if you're so unprofessional that management hears about it, repeatedly, and, just as importantly, determines it's no longer profitable to keep you on. If they think it's unprofitable, they usually won't hesitate to fire you.
Then again, that's not quite right, either, because lots of managers are unprofessional, too. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tjames426
Joined: 06 Aug 2006
|
| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
80% of Foreign English teachers should be fired for not caring and not putting much effort into their work.
***
try **incompetent** instead.
How many of the Foreign English Teachers have an Education degree, or Teaching / TESOL certificate with actual classroom experience? 20%???? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
|
| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: Re: 80% of English Teachers Should be Fired |
|
|
| Newbie wrote: |
80% of Korean teachers should be fired for being completely useless with the English langauge (okay, I'm being nice. It's about 95%)
80% of Foreign English teachers should be fired for not caring and not putting much effort into their work.
Fair assessment? |
Going by that rationale, what percentage of school/university/hagwon management would you say should be fired? I know my own amount of effort and care is directly proportional to that exhibited by management in the places I have worked.
Which comes first - the chicken or the egg? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
|
| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:19 am Post subject: |
|
|
| HijackedTwilight wrote: |
The numbers may be about right in terms of professionalism, but you don't get fired just because you're unprofessional. You only get fired if you're so unprofessional that management hears about it, repeatedly, and, just as importantly, determines it's no longer profitable to keep you on. If they think it's unprofitable, they usually won't hesitate to fire you.
|
No, you get fired for being sick, boring, ugly, making someone lose face, or being the victim of false accusations. If none of those things happen, it's pretty hard to get fired merely for being unprofessional. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
|
| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Tjames426 wrote: |
80% of Foreign English teachers should be fired for not caring and not putting much effort into their work.
***
try **incompetent** instead.
How many of the Foreign English Teachers have an Education degree, or Teaching / TESOL certificate with actual classroom experience? 20%???? |
And as I've asked a number of people before, just what kind of education degree, teaching certificate, or TESOL certificate would make one suitably qualified to teach here? (One that taught English teachers when to use upper- and lower-case letters, I�d hope). |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
|
| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
| I beg to differ that 80% are useless and should be fired. While 80% may not have an education degree and TESOL, many are still good teachers. It's really impossible to gauge how many are bad teachers, but I know it's not a whopping 80%. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
|
| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:09 am Post subject: Re: 80% of English Teachers Should be Fired |
|
|
| Hanson wrote: |
| Newbie wrote: |
80% of Korean teachers should be fired for being completely useless with the English langauge (okay, I'm being nice. It's about 95%)
80% of Foreign English teachers should be fired for not caring and not putting much effort into their work.
Fair assessment? |
Going by that rationale, what percentage of school/university/hagwon management would you say should be fired? I know my own amount of effort and care is directly proportional to that exhibited by management in the places I have worked.
Which comes first - the chicken or the egg? |
100% OF KOREAN MOTHERS SHOULD BE BANNED FROM HAVING ANY COMMENTARY ON WHAT HAPPENS EDUCATIONALLY IN THE CLASSROOM.
Yeah, I said it. If there's a chicken, or egg, I don't know, but Korean mothers possibly have the single most detrimental effect on their children's education. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Frankly Mr Shankly
Joined: 13 Feb 2008
|
| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:15 am Post subject: Re: 80% of English Teachers Should be Fired |
|
|
| jdog2050 wrote: |
100% OF KOREAN MOTHERS SHOULD BE BANNED FROM HAVING ANY COMMENTARY ON WHAT HAPPENS EDUCATIONALLY IN THE CLASSROOM.
Yeah, I said it. If there's a chicken, or egg, I don't know, but Korean mothers possibly have the single most detrimental effect on their children's education. |
Word. BTW, is the OP channeling Steve Schertzer |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
