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[i4NI]

Any tricks here? Sounds too good to be true.

[Voyeur]

No tricks per se.

But it is not too good to be true, just "good".

You get almost no national holidays off. You can work a weekend day. Office hours are lower than places that make you put in 40 a week, but teaching hours can be high. You have to work hard at the teaching - no hangman.

Harder than your average hogwon or public school, but they pay you for it. Definitely worth considering if you are offered in top 50% of those ranges. More than worth considering - likely the best offer you will find for most people.

[i4NI]

It says only 120 teaching hours which is less than 8 hours a day for 5 weeks. What do you consider better btw? I don't see much better stuff posted unless you have a specialized degree and experience. In fact most of the job offers I see have me shaking my head.

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[KoreanAmbition]

i4ni,

96 hours per month

25K - 35K per hour

Multiply it out...

2.4 million - 3.36 million per month

Hmm, they seem to say 2.5 - 3.7.


120 hours per month

25K - 35K

Multiply it out...

3.0 million - 4.2 million per month.

Hmm, they say 3.1 to 4.2.


I know some of the above are not HUGE differences, but they are errors nonetheless. I'm not too big on places that put up ads with promises that aren't accurate.

The biggest difference is on the 35k salary and the 96 hours. Seems they cut a lot off the top if someone's not paying attention.

I also have openly questioned on here the ability of CDI to give the 120 hours people want instead of just the minimum.

HINT: Start calculating all your earnings based on 96 hours per month since that's their promise to you. If you get more, then fine, but by contract that's what you are entitled to. Make sure you're happy with their gaurantee before you count starting to count pennies that you haven't got yet.

Average salaries are like 30K per hour. At 96 hours, that's 2.88 million won per month.

2.88 million won per month, and:

-NO HOUSING
-NO SEVERANCE
-NO PENSION
-NO MEDICAL


I am not convinced by a company that says EVERY WORKER can get up to 120 hours, because it's just not true. That would mean they have an excess of students, and we all know that's not going to happen. As soon as they have more students they'll hire more teachers. There's no way every teacher gets their 120 hours.

Don't kid yourself... If CDI can give hours to a salaried guy that IS CONTRACTED to work 120 hours, or to YOU and you're hourly and CDI pays more... who do you think gets the hours? CDI is a business, and they will give the hours to the salaried employees first because they already pay for their entire 120 hours. After that, the leftovers go to the hourly workers.

I don't work for CDI, and never have. However, that is how any company would operate if they had half a brain, and I'm sure CDI isn't dumb by any means.

Take hourly if you want, but just PRAY you're not the guy that gets short-changed on hours.

Or take the safe salary contracts, and get bent over with 120 hours for 2.5 million, working out to be hardly more than 20k per hour.

[Voyeur]

It can be hard to consistently get 120 hours a month as an hourly. Depending upon location, ofc.

You have run some interesting math. I make substantially more than 30k / hour now so at this point CDI is a no brainer for me. However, I may need to revise upwards my tipping point at which CDI becomes better than other hogwons and/or public school as you have suggested that other places have upped salaries.

And don't public school teachers often teach extra classes so they get more than the 2.2 that is often advertised? And since they have to be on-site 40 hours a week no matter what, teaching those extra classes is almost like free money since it comes out of that time they would have to be on-site.

A lot seems to come down to apt. quality and rent cost in these comparisons. That and you couldn't pay me enough to teach a 40 person class

[i4NI]

Thanks for the replies. I'm wondering, how do you make more than 30k an hour Voyeur? I was under the impression that most hagwons and public school teachers didn't make much money, in fact I thought under 20k hourly.

I was actually just searching for a small morning gig but came across that cdi add. I'm only privately tutoring at the moment and needed something for the morning in the future.

[Voyeur]

CDI is IMO having some problems due to hiring some teachers on lower-end contracts that don't really cover the workload, regardless of how weak the candidate was. He still has to be motivated to do the work.

In the past they used to pay higher salary levels more consistently.

However, they still do offer a fair number of higher-end contracts. Though pushing 30k as a first year there can be hard to do in most cases. But they really reward degrees from top-end schools. That can do it. So can a masters or a great resume etc...It is worth it to apply and see what you can get.

Where CDI really shines is for people planning to do 2+ years. If you are good in your first year you can get a very nice contract in your second and subsequent years. I have been there for over a year.

[KoreanAmbition]

Voyeur,

I'm curious about your opinions because you seem to have positive impressions of CDI.

Can you tell me how many hours per week you work? Do you do that every month?