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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: Korea Should Embrace Multiculturalism |
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This is an editorial from today's Chosun Ilbo, commonly considered the most conservative newspaper in the country.
Meaza Eshetu, a professor from Ethiopia, is a regular cast member of the popular KBS 2 program "Beauty�s Talk," which features a panel of foreign women living in Korea.
On Monday�s program, Meaza shed tears as she recalled a painful experience when she applied for a job at a company in Korea. She said she was told that the company does not hire black people. Meaza, who has lived in Korea for four-and-a-half years, teaches at a business college. She said people have openly asked her how she, a black woman, can teach at the college, and called Koreans too racist. When she met the employer of a fellow Ethiopian who cannot speak Korean, the owner of the factory told her that black people are given lower wages than Asians. Australian Kirsty Reynolds also cited racism in Korea, saying Koreans don�t sign up for English conversation classes taught by black teachers.
When Korea was a poor country, Koreans suffered discrimination while working in foreign countries. Now that our living standards have risen, we should be ashamed of ourselves for having racist or superior attitudes ourselves. When a cold storage warehouse in Incheon, Gyeonggi Province burned down, 14 out of the 40 workers who died were foreigners. They are among the pillars of Korea�s economy, toiling away every day for low wages. What do foreigners think about Koreans -- and the way we treat out overseas guests?
Each year, we sell W370 billion (US$1=W1,049) worth of products overseas, while over two percent of our population -- or a million people -- are foreigners. Yet Switzerland�s International Institute for Management Development (IMD) ranked Korea bottom out of 55 countries when it comes to �openness to foreign cultures.�
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It's the steady appearance of articles like this that make me optimistic about Korea. Last year there were several in a similar vein.
I'm interested to see how the chronic Korea-bashers respond to this. |
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monkinwonderland

Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:40 am Post subject: |
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Good article, but it's a shame it will fall on too many deaf ears. When a country progresses as quickly as Korea has, it's all too easy to adopt a superior and chauvinistic attitude toward others. Add that will the way Koreans identify themselves and their 'pure' culture.
I think it will take a long time (and lot more than well-written editorials) before there's any real change in attitude. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:43 am Post subject: |
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I'll be optimistic when such editorials actually have any effect. Until then, it's just words blowin' in the wind. |
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A2Steve

Joined: 10 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Korea often reminds me of the old skit on SNL, the "PI PI" or politically incorrect Private Investigator.
He nearly lost his mind while investigating a murder at a college, fist finding a Black victim who was a professor, and then that he was married to a white woman, who was an MD.
I can see people having a stroke here in Korea if that episode ever made it on "Star King," or whatever that "Korea's Got (Marginal) Talent" show is..... |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:56 am Post subject: |
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I taught some "Gu" officials. And, they were talking to me/asking my advice about the foreign wives of Korean nationals who lived in their district. They seemed sincerely concerned for their welfare and really wanted to do their best to help them aclimate to Korea. These were not young people either if you know what I mean.
The only advice I had for them was to make them feel as included as possible and they agreed that that was very important.
I get the feeling, at least in the Seoul area, that the Korean mentality toward "multi-culturalism" is changing quick. I'd say it still has a long way to go -- of course I would say the same of my home country.
No doubt Korea has problems. But no doubt Korea tries to get better.
I'll tell you what really impresses me about Korea and Koreans. They generally really want to do the right thing. They really want to be good, respected, the best. Of course, like all of us, they fall somewhat short of perfection. But, they really do try. And, I think that more than anything fuels Korea's progress. I really believe Korea is an up and coming place. It will get better. |
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nautilus

Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Unposter wrote: |
I'll tell you what really impresses me about Korea and Koreans. They generally really want to do the right thing. They really want to be good, respected, the best. |
-they just have no clue how to go about it.
Most Korean behaviour comes across as repulsive, obnoxious, selfish and rude to invariably all foreigners. They appear to have zero consideration for anyone else, and no understanding that 90% of how they behave would earn them a black eye in any other country.
Thats what cutting yourself off from the outside world for centuries does to a nation. |
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stevieg4ever

Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Location: London, England
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:19 am Post subject: |
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And this will continue until they can improve their grasp of the international language.
I also think that Koreans' behaviour, attitude and conduct when overseas is testament to your point.
nautilus wrote: |
Unposter wrote: |
I'll tell you what really impresses me about Korea and Koreans. They generally really want to do the right thing. They really want to be good, respected, the best. |
-they just have no clue how to go about it.
Most Korean behaviour comes across as repulsive, obnoxious, selfish and rude to invariably all foreigners. They appear to have zero consideration for anyone else, and no understanding that 90% of how they behave would earn them a black eye in any other country.
Thats what cutting yourself off from the outside world for centuries does to a nation. |
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Guri Guy

Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Good to see some self reflection going on. Hopefully these are not just hollow words. |
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Hyeon Een

Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Korea Should Embrace Multiculturalism |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
It's the steady appearance of articles like this that make me optimistic about Korea. Last year there were several in a similar vein.
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I work with a lot of 'young adults' (Uni) and I'm really very very impressed by their attitudes. It's easy for us who fly in to Korea and hear about its rapid development over the past 40 years and then observe slightly backward or conservative viewpoints to become quickly judgemental of Korea circa RIGHT NOW. It's like we've read that Korea has developed quickly but don't realize that it's still happening. Korea is still a rapidly developing country but at the moment it is social changes rather than economic which are advancing the most briskly. The young generation are different to their parents, and even their 'seniors' who are 5 or 10 years older than them. The national consciousness is also changing rapidly, from adumma to agassi to elementary school student.
Korea developed quickly in terms of technological terms but in social ways it's developed slightly slower simply due to lack of exposure to internationals. As greater contact is made with people from other cultures the people's minds are broadened. This may sound a little trite, but in all my experiences it's always the case.
A lot of posters here like to mention that people in other countries don't stop and stare and point at them and shout "Migukin" or whatever. The thing is, people in other countries DO do this unless they've been exposed to a lot of foreigners. People working here travel to Thailand a lot and don't experience it there because they travel along well-beaten paths. The locals in those places are very much used to meeting and seeing outsiders and don't get excited. But if one goes to back-country Thailand, to the places where they don't see foreigners, you will get the exact same thing: cries of "Farang! Hello!" and so on. This is something few people experience since the most touristed parts of Thailand (or any other nation) are so used to foreigners.
All my dealings with young people today also make me optimistic about the future of Korea. Attitudes are changing rapidly and greater awareness of non-Koreans, or Korea in an international community, are increasing massively.
Economically I'm not sure where things are going right now in Korea, but socially I'm very positive about Korea, Koreans and their relationships with those from outside of the peninsula. Koreans' relationships with foreigners are changing for the better, including 3d workers and others less privilged than our English teaching selves. It'll be a long time before things are "great", especially for those from the 3rd world working here, but things are certainly changing for the better. |
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cheeseface
Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Location: Ssyangnyeon Shi
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Korea Should Embrace Multiculturalism |
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Hyeon Een wrote: |
Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
It's the steady appearance of articles like this that make me optimistic about Korea. Last year there were several in a similar vein.
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I work with a lot of 'young adults' (Uni) and I'm really very very impressed by their attitudes. It's easy for us who fly in to Korea and hear about its rapid development over the past 40 years and then observe slightly backward or conservative viewpoints to become quickly judgemental of Korea circa RIGHT NOW. It's like we've read that Korea has developed quickly but don't realize that it's still happening. Korea is still a rapidly developing country but at the moment it is social changes rather than economic which are advancing the most briskly. The young generation are different to their parents, and even their 'seniors' who are 5 or 10 years older than them. The national consciousness is also changing rapidly, from adumma to agassi to elementary school student.
Korea developed quickly in terms of technological terms but in social ways it's developed slightly slower simply due to lack of exposure to internationals. As greater contact is made with people from other cultures the people's minds are broadened. This may sound a little trite, but in all my experiences it's always the case.
A lot of posters here like to mention that people in other countries don't stop and stare and point at them and shout "Migukin" or whatever. The thing is, people in other countries DO do this unless they've been exposed to a lot of foreigners. People working here travel to Thailand a lot and don't experience it there because they travel along well-beaten paths. The locals in those places are very much used to meeting and seeing outsiders and don't get excited. But if one goes to back-country Thailand, to the places where they don't see foreigners, you will get the exact same thing: cries of "Farang! Hello!" and so on. This is something few people experience since the most touristed parts of Thailand (or any other nation) are so used to foreigners.
All my dealings with young people today also make me optimistic about the future of Korea. Attitudes are changing rapidly and greater awareness of non-Koreans, or Korea in an international community, are increasing massively.
Economically I'm not sure where things are going right now in Korea, but socially I'm very positive about Korea, Koreans and their relationships with those from outside of the peninsula. Koreans' relationships with foreigners are changing for the better, including 3d workers and others less privilged than our English teaching selves. It'll be a long time before things are "great", especially for those from the 3rd world working here, but things are certainly changing for the better. |
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i4NI
Joined: 17 May 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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It took quite awhile for America to embrace multiculturalism, and if Hispanic and Asian girls weren't so hot i don't think we would've gotten this far. If only the posters on dave's esl cafe weren't lying about how handsome they are we could've gotten korea to like us much more, instead it's a bunch of canadians on the subway who dare to not wear deoderant and stink up the whole cable car.
thats right, if that was you today, don't think you can get away with not wearing deodorant, you stunk up the whole train and you got off at noryangjin station. if you know who you are then just go buy some deodorant, no need to post in here. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Korea shouldn't have to embrace multiculturalism per se, it just needs to treat its current foreign population better - and there are already visible signs that Korea is vastly improving its record in this area. In Hanam, which has a sizable South-Asian migrant community, local governmental agencies have established a community centre, and an advisory panel to assist their foreign residents. I have also seen exposes which highlight the gross treatment that some foreign factory workers suffer at the hands of unscrupulous bosses, and the sense of outrage on the part of the Korean production team was pulpable.
It's also nausiating to hear liberal Johnny-come lately westerners pontificating to Koreans on the merits of multi-culturalism when the jury back home is still out on whether or not it has been a success; it might have brought certain economic benefits - especially to our captains of industry, but in terms of social cohesion its impact has been largely negative. Korea is becoming increasingly dependant on cheap labour and in so far as it is an economic imperative it should be encouraged, but outside that, no radical social experiment is required. |
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