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[jangsalgida]

The size and shape does vary. To all newbies...A love rod is called as such because when the teacher hits the student they probably say sarang hae oh/i love you or this(beating/whacking) is because I love you.

Sadly, it's been going on for years and although its now illegal it just isn't about to stop. Of course that doesn't mean you can do it, you are a foreign teacher and you are not equal to any Korean teacher as you already know due to the Medical test and HIV that you must take while the Korean teacher does not.

I'm new at this since it's my first time working at a public school as a so-called "Public School Teacher," but I've been in S. Korea for 4 years. I do not know how long I can put up with almost every male(some females though not as obvious) Korean teacher holding and walking proudly with their weapon. One teacher has and does openly inform me of its use.

I haven't even seen anything(beatings) yet, but the thought of it is just about enough to make me call it an end to this place. Their way of making all students the same is so backwards and laughable especially in a so-called democratic country that has sucked off American tax payers for years.

When anyone talks about S. Korea's low level of international education recognition, then all one has to do is point to almost any school in S. Korea, visit it at any time without a heads-up and you will see the level of F****** backwardness.

[Whistleblower]

Is it me or is this thread written by an adult on drugs?

[jangsalgida]

[nuthatch]

jangsalgida,

I was thinking some similar things yesterday as I was attempting to teach in a boys middle school...i sent a couple of guys out of the classroom because they were disrespectful and disruptive...

however, when I opened the door to the hall a while later to retrieve them back into the classroom, the so-called co-teacher had the stick in her hand and the two boys had their pant legs rolled up ...i guess she whacked them ...(WTF...it is supposed to be illegal ?!) i told them to come back inside ...and i regret that this happened to them...the kids here do not really seem that bad to me...especially compared to U.S. public schools...but they are rowdy between classes and there is absolutely no supervision feedback (studies have shown that boys particularly at this age need mentoring) on the floors during breaks...they are really out of control...

i have confronted the so-called vice-prinicpal twice (all the teachers in the teachers room listening were shocked that I confronted him...now I am a troublemaker and irreverent to the head hancho)...asking why there is no feedback or supervison during breaks...of course, he says that is the way it is in Korean schools...(then they wonder why they are hyper and out-of-control in the classroom)...duh! backward and no sense of psychology, environment, etc....if I go into the teachers room with the vp sitting as the "captain" in the room ...it is cool and quiet...teachers (mostly male) are sleeping at their desks...they are always in there, secluded and away from what is happening upstairs...where boys are strangling others, running around, hitting, shoving, pushed to the windows, some boys looking alone and alienated...

but don't forget to take your shoes off and put on some cruddy slippers (I go in the side door and do not do the slippers at certain schools like this)

yes...backward

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[I_Am_The_Kiwi]

I see beatings with the love stick every day. My co-teacher is more or less the discipline guy in 1st grade HS. Im used to it now, and really at times i wish i could use it on some students rather than just the old 'out of the class' routine.

Its illegal, but that doesnt matter. Parents know it happens, everyone knows.

Nothing wrong with a good whack on the ass every so often.

However the use of fists etc is well out of order.

Bare in mind, boys anyway, will be in the Army in a few years. Rekon theyll be getting better treatment.

[Rob'sdad]

[pkang0202]

Seriously OP. Come to my school. See my 6th grade students. Then go to the middle school across the street and look at the middle school 1st years. Those middle school 1st years were the WORST 6th grade class to ever go through my school. I wasn't here then, but all the teachers at the school still talk about them.

I hear those 1st years are complete angels now. Why? Probably because the minute they pulled any crap in the classroom, they got the Love Stick.

[nuthatch]

I totally disagree with most of you...your philosophy and approach.

Though they are "used to it" ... change is good... change to an overall re-focus of actions, reality of what one is doing and responsible for, what one will do, what one can do....

different management of schools in general, in the halls, classrooms, using educational psychology/behavior views rather than something from the abusive dark ages....how this affects inquiry-based learning, independent thinking, which also encourages a more progressive, creative, scientific society...besides the time wasted on useless beatings as discipline...refocus also on family responsibility and behavior.

[I_Am_The_Kiwi]

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[skconqueror]

[Rusty Shackleford]

One of my middle school girls' classes actually made a stick for me. My co-teacher took it off me and now she uses it. Not before asking me really worriedly if I had used it. Which is a joke because the students in her classes openly disrespect her and I'm the one who has to do the disciplining.

Also seems like the behavior has gone downhill since the term break.

On a side note, one of the other male teachers is always disciplining students, every time I see him. Yesterday he was hitting a girl on the forehead with a badminton racket. I've also seen him deliver karate chops to the neck. I try to ignore it but I can see sheet goin' down one day if I'm having a particularly bad one.

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[maddog]