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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/06/117_25290.html
TaLK Program Struggling With Lukewarm Response
By Kang Shin-who
Staff Reporter
The government's plan to hire ethnic Korean university students from overseas and foreign nationals as English teachers for elementary schools in rural areas is drawing lukewarm reaction.
More than 1,500 elementary schools in provincial areas are demanding native English-speaking teachers, according to the Ministry of Education, Science and Technology.
To provide children at relatively underprivileged schools with opportunities to learn English, the ministry has launched the Teach and Learn in Korea (TaLK) program and has been receiving applications since May 1. The program is in line with President Lee Myung-bak's pledge to narrow the educational gap between the haves and have-nots.
Calling them ``President's Scholars,'' the government pledges benefits such as round-trip airfare and allowances of about 1.5 million won ($ 1,500) per month as well as a monthly accommodation allowance of 400,000 won.
However, the project is drawing unenthusiastic responses, with the June 15 deadline approaching. According to the TaLK office, it has only received about 180 applicants, well below the target of 500. About nine out of 10 applicants are ethnic Korean teachers.
``People tend to apply at the last minute. In reality, some 100 students applied last week. I believe we can manage to complete our goal,'' said Kim Chang-eun, director of TaLK office.
To attract more applicants, the office already lowered the academic requirements for the positions. It originally only opened its doors to students who had completed at least two years of their course at a university in an English-speaking country, but now even freshmen and sophomore students can apply.
``In the beginning, only junior and senior university students were allowed to apply. But now all university students, graduates and graduate school students can apply,'' said Lee Young-chan, a deputy director at the ministry.
The ministry has newly included students from South Africa in addition to Australia, Canada, New Zealand, U.K., U.S.A., and Ireland. In addition, the ministry plans to invite some 100 exchange students for the program. Initially, the ministry said that exchange students could not apply for the program due to visa problems.
Successful candidates in the program will teach after-school classes by forming one-to-one working partnerships with Korean university students from September.
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No rent...1.5 mill a month...and three hours in the classroom a day? Where does one sign up for this program.  |
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hari seldon
Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: |
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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/06/117_25290.html
TaLK Program Struggling With Lukewarm Response
By Kang Shin-who
Staff Reporter
The government's plan to hire ethnic Korean university students from overseas and foreign nationals as English teachers for elementary schools in rural areas is drawing lukewarm reaction... |
No rent...1.5 mill a month...and three hours in the classroom a day? Where does one sign up for this program. |
It could be a decent part-time job for somebody working on a distance graduate degree.
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| sojusucks wrote: |
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/06/117_25290.html
TaLK Program Struggling With Lukewarm Response
By Kang Shin-who
Staff Reporter
The government's plan to hire ethnic Korean university students from overseas and foreign nationals as English teachers for elementary schools in rural areas is drawing lukewarm reaction.
More than 1,500 elementary schools in provincial areas are demanding native English-speaking teachers, according to the Ministry of Education, Science and Technology.
To provide children at relatively underprivileged schools with opportunities to learn English, the ministry has launched the Teach and Learn in Korea (TaLK) program and has been receiving applications since May 1. The program is in line with President Lee Myung-bak's pledge to narrow the educational gap between the haves and have-nots.
Calling them ``President's Scholars,'' the government pledges benefits such as round-trip airfare and allowances of about 1.5 million won ($ 1,500) per month as well as a monthly accommodation allowance of 400,000 won.
However, the project is drawing unenthusiastic responses, with the June 15 deadline approaching. According to the TaLK office, it has only received about 180 applicants, well below the target of 500. About nine out of 10 applicants are ethnic Korean teachers.
``People tend to apply at the last minute. In reality, some 100 students applied last week. I believe we can manage to complete our goal,'' said Kim Chang-eun, director of TaLK office.
To attract more applicants, the office already lowered the academic requirements for the positions. It originally only opened its doors to students who had completed at least two years of their course at a university in an English-speaking country, but now even freshmen and sophomore students can apply.
``In the beginning, only junior and senior university students were allowed to apply. But now all university students, graduates and graduate school students can apply,'' said Lee Young-chan, a deputy director at the ministry.
The ministry has newly included students from South Africa in addition to Australia, Canada, New Zealand, U.K., U.S.A., and Ireland. In addition, the ministry plans to invite some 100 exchange students for the program. Initially, the ministry said that exchange students could not apply for the program due to visa problems.
Successful candidates in the program will teach after-school classes by forming one-to-one working partnerships with Korean university students from September.
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No rent...1.5 mill a month...and three hours in the classroom a day? Where does one sign up for this program. |
Just take the short bus to loserville. If you are in anyway incapable of landing a decent gig, you will be a shoe in. |
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My, my the public school schleps certainly are threatened by TALK aren't they.  |
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Kimchieluver
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| My, my the public school schleps certainly are threatened by TALK aren't they. |
Woe is me, the unqualified are licking their chops.  |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| My, my the public school schleps certainly are threatened by TALK aren't they. |
Woe is me, the unqualified are licking their chops. |
Care to share your "qualifications" with us? Maybe your not as "qualified" as you think.
I'll save myself from having to make the next post......didn't think you would. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:53 am Post subject: |
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Why not go back to college and finish a bachelor's degree and get a job that pays more money?
Plus, you'll get to live by yourself, like a grown-up. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| NETs should applaud the Korean government for programs like TALK. Part-time interns don't threaten our livelihood and every new government program focused on improving English education in Korea has the perverse effect of encouraging Korean parents to spend even more on English education. |
What's a NET? |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| My, my the public school schleps certainly are threatened by TALK aren't they. |
Woe is me, the unqualified are licking their chops. |
Care to share your "qualifications" with us? Maybe your not as "qualified" as you think.
I'll save myself from having to make the next post......didn't think you would. |
3 years Canadian Defense Forces (cultural liaison Master Corporal), Bachelor Commerce (Finance), 2 years AIG, 2 years Real Canadian Superstore, 2 years teaching Inuit Grade 3 English and computers, 1 year shady hogwan, 2 years professional hogwans, 4 year Public school from elementary grade 1 to middle school grade 3. TESOL certified (4 years), Masters Candidate TESOL (1/4 completed). |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| Join Me wrote: |
| My, my the public school schleps certainly are threatened by TALK aren't they. |
Woe is me, the unqualified are licking their chops. |
Care to share your "qualifications" with us? Maybe your not as "qualified" as you think.
I'll save myself from having to make the next post......didn't think you would. |
3 years Canadian Defense Forces (cultural liaison Master Corporal), Bachelor Commerce (Finance), 2 years AIG, 2 years Real Canadian Superstore, 2 years teaching Inuit Grade 3 English and computers, 1 year shady hogwan, 2 years professional hogwans, 4 year Public school from elementary grade 1 to middle school grade 3. TESOL certified (4 years), Masters Candidate TESOL (1/4 completed). |
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rooster_2006
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| Why not go back to college and finish a bachelor's degree and get a job that pays more money? |
I've finished over half my bachelor's degree from within Korea, combining Yonsei University courses (39 credit hours) and distance courses (25 credit hours). It's not the easiest way to go (lots of administrative hassles, especially with getting exams proctored and so forth), but unparalleled for personal growth. Definitely better for personal growth than most US college campuses. After over two years of doing this here, I would not have it any other way.
Basically, I will emerge next year not only as a college graduate, but I've become bilingual and built up years of experience living in a foreign country, not to mention I'll have one year of public school experience by the time I graduate. And how many of my 21-year-old friends from high school have dated and lived with a Korean businesswoman, or have met a North Korean soldier face-to-face? Not bad for a fresh college graduate, eh?
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| Plus, you'll get to live by yourself, like a grown-up. |
The TaLK program will give you a 400,000 won housing allowance. In most parts of the country (except for Seoul, and this program is not designed for Seoul), this is enough to get your own apartment.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| Join Me wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
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| My, my the public school schleps certainly are threatened by TALK aren't they. |
Woe is me, the unqualified are licking their chops. |
Care to share your "qualifications" with us? Maybe your not as "qualified" as you think.
I'll save myself from having to make the next post......didn't think you would. |
3 years Canadian Defense Forces (cultural liaison Master Corporal), Bachelor Commerce (Finance), 2 years AIG, 2 years Real Canadian Superstore, 2 years teaching Inuit Grade 3 English and computers, 1 year shady hogwan, 2 years professional hogwans, 4 year Public school from elementary grade 1 to middle school grade 3. TESOL certified (4 years), Masters Candidate TESOL (1/4 completed). |
I wouldn't feel too threatened by lesser qualified men like me if I were you. Times are good right now in my shady little hawgwan and I won't be coming for your cushy public school job anytime soon. I just enjoy watching you public school Muppets sweat every time the Korean government proposes to roll you out of your comfy little Englishy rooms you all sleep in all day.  |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| Join Me wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| Join Me wrote: |
| My, my the public school schleps certainly are threatened by TALK aren't they. |
Woe is me, the unqualified are licking their chops. |
Care to share your "qualifications" with us? Maybe your not as "qualified" as you think.
I'll save myself from having to make the next post......didn't think you would. |
3 years Canadian Defense Forces (cultural liaison Master Corporal), Bachelor Commerce (Finance), 2 years AIG, 2 years Real Canadian Superstore, 2 years teaching Inuit Grade 3 English and computers, 1 year shady hogwan, 2 years professional hogwans, 4 year Public school from elementary grade 1 to middle school grade 3. TESOL certified (4 years), Masters Candidate TESOL (1/4 completed). |
I wouldn't feel too threatened by lesser qualified men like me if I were you. Times are good right now in my shady little hawgwan and I won't be coming for your cushy public school job anytime soon. I just enjoy watching you public school Muppets sweat every time the Korean government proposes to roll you out of your comfy little Englishy rooms you all sleep in all day. |
I get up at 6:30am everyday while you sleep until 11:00. I don't feel threatened. If you look on another thread I posted an article about tens of thousands of Filipinos teaching in the USA. I am very comfortable in my position and have fostered many relations to keep the bread on the table. I have an F5 and I am guessing you have an F4. Programs like TaLK are not my concern. It is that for the last umpteen years they have been busting teachers who teach nothing but ABCs to kindy for not having degrees and now they will let two year college students come and teach. Surely, you can see a problem with this. |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| Join Me wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| Join Me wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| Join Me wrote: |
| My, my the public school schleps certainly are threatened by TALK aren't they. |
Woe is me, the unqualified are licking their chops. |
Care to share your "qualifications" with us? Maybe your not as "qualified" as you think.
I'll save myself from having to make the next post......didn't think you would. |
3 years Canadian Defense Forces (cultural liaison Master Corporal), Bachelor Commerce (Finance), 2 years AIG, 2 years Real Canadian Superstore, 2 years teaching Inuit Grade 3 English and computers, 1 year shady hogwan, 2 years professional hogwans, 4 year Public school from elementary grade 1 to middle school grade 3. TESOL certified (4 years), Masters Candidate TESOL (1/4 completed). |
I wouldn't feel too threatened by lesser qualified men like me if I were you. Times are good right now in my shady little hawgwan and I won't be coming for your cushy public school job anytime soon. I just enjoy watching you public school Muppets sweat every time the Korean government proposes to roll you out of your comfy little Englishy rooms you all sleep in all day. |
I get up at 6:30am everyday while you sleep until 11:00. I don't feel threatened. If you look on another thread I posted an article about tens of thousands of Filipinos teaching in the USA. I am very comfortable in my position and have fostered many relations to keep the bread on the table. I have an F5 and I am guessing you have an F4. Programs like TaLK are not my concern. It is that for the last umpteen years they have been busting teachers who teach nothing but ABCs to kindy for not having degrees and now they will let two year college students come and teach. Surely, you can see a problem with this. |
I guess you see a problem because you are trying to make a connection between Korea's educational system and the busting of foreigners for not having proper qualifications. As I stated before, Roh was (and is) a piece of @%&! who granted the Korean media and his subservient little minions the free will to hunt foreigners. Busting foreigners for falsifying documents and smoking pot was not about cleaning up the educational system...it was about vilifying the evil foreigner. Korea now has a President that is for the most part foreigner friendly. Where are the daily news articles about the evil white man?
People with two year degrees were allowed to teach in Korea in the past. I don't see a problem with it now. |
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Kimchieluver
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Join Me,
I agree with you.
Certainly one does not need a degree to teach the ABCs or Mary Had a Little lamb. However, Noh or Roh (whichever you prefer) basically did vilify us. As a PS teacher, I had to re-verify my degree 4 times. Nobody in this damn country keeps records. I am all for the TaLK program and for Filipinos teaching here, but puhleaze, Kimmi and Ministry of Ed., keep some damn records. As for two year degree teachers, I think they are being paid accordingly.
Answer me this, Join Me. Why would you take a two year scholarship pay if you had a 4 year degree?? I am sure their language exchange is suspect at best. And I don't buy a guy/gal choosing celibacy for a home-stay. Maybe if they were 60 and needed Viagra to whack off to a computer screen. Why not take the 400K? |
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