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Which camera brand do you prefer?
Nikon
14%
 14%  [ 1 ]
Panasonic (Lumix)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Olympus
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Canon
85%
 85%  [ 6 ]
Sony
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Kodak
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
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ucbhanna



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: Seeking camera advice... Reply with quote

I'm looking for a camera (preferably point and shoot, but might end up considering a DLSR) that takes good night shots. I currently have an 8MP Olympus point-and-shoot and the night shots are fair at best. (If I go flashless, the pictures come out dark, blurry and grainy. If there are people in the foreground and the flash is on, the background doesn't even show in the picture.)

I've seen really nice night shots from point-and-shoots that didn't require a tripod. I just don't know the brand or model... simply know they're out there!

Mahalo!


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I_Am_The_Kiwi



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in all honestly, this isnt really the place to ask.
and there is a world of difference between a point n shoot and n SLR - price, size, weight, image quality etc etc

id read around on thet net myself...this is a good site

cameralabs.com and dpreview.com - youll find the most useful info here.
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superdave



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mate, you're talking about every single photographic faux pas regarding night photography.

lol

1. if you shoot at night, you need longer shutter speeds. that means a tripod.

2. grainy is due to your camera automatically increasing the ISO to compensate for the dark, while allowing you to hand hold the shot.

3. flashes only work for subjects up to 3 metres. so the camera thinks you're illuminating the foreground and as a result the background will be virtually black ... this is because the camera must keep the shutter speed fast, otherwise the 'flashed' part will be overexposed.

photography has rules, mostly based on the simple physics of light. i don't imagine there are any point and shoot (PnS) cameras that can capture amazing night photos ... especially without a tripod. unless, of course, the photographer has extremely steady hands.

i don't think a simple poll will answer your questions. if you have seen a PnS that can get good night shots, you should ask the owner of the photograph what camera they used and how they got the shot.

personally, i'd recommend a small DSLR (example nikon D40/D60) and a reasonable tripod (ie not rickety piece o crap). you'll get wonderful night shots with it ... oh, and a cable release or remote is also useful, since the camera can shake when you physically press the shutter button.

if you want to try the PnS method, then switch the camera to night mode or manual mode (if it has that option) and use something to lean against. you can put the camera on a table, fence post, or sturdy object.

alternatively, you can hold the camera, but lean against a tree or a wall to give yourself more stability.

these won't guarantee good shots, but will improve your stability and reduce camera shake.

if you want guarantees, get a tripod! Smile

cheers

david
www.davidsmeaton.com
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ucbhanna



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: RE: Reply with quote

Sweet, thanks for your advice!

I knew there'd be people here w/ great camera expertise!

I've tried night modes on my camera, but it looks like 1) not only does the camera need to remain steady, but the camera subjects (people in the shot) have to remain absolutely still or they come out blurry... and 2) never do the subjects and background both come out nicely, it's always either or.

Have any words of wisdom concerning this?
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superdave



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: over there ----->

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Re: RE: Reply with quote

ucbhanna wrote:
Sweet, thanks for your advice!

I knew there'd be people here w/ great camera expertise!

I've tried night modes on my camera, but it looks like 1) not only does the camera need to remain steady, but the camera subjects (people in the shot) have to remain absolutely still or they come out blurry... and 2) never do the subjects and background both come out nicely, it's always either or.

Have any words of wisdom concerning this?


yes ... it's either or!

the easiest to get win/win is to sacrifice image quality (increase your iso and suffer from grainy photos).

slow shutter speeds work well for night photography, but a moving subject is obviously going to be blurry. the only way to capture people is as you said, have them sit still or find a way to make the shutter speed fast. but, if you use a flash, you will lose the background.

a method that can work, but takes some practice, is to use the flash with manual settings.

if you calculate that the night photo requires a 2 second exposure, then set your camera for it manually. if you have people in the foreground, you can use the flash (btw, in your settings, turn the flash strength down to the minimum possible strength).

so, flash your subjects and continue the exposure. after 2 seconds, the background should be nice (as you calculated earlier) and your subjects will be clear too.

of course, you can always eliminate the problem by either removing the people or introducing more ambient lighting (car headlights, or other nearby light sources).

david
www.davidsmeaton.com
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Poemer



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Mullae

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are talking about low light situations (like in a bar etc.) there can be a lot of difference from one camera to another. Do a little research on cameras that have a good low light ISO setting, they are not all created equal.

If you are really talking about night shooting, with very little ambient light, then you will need a tripod, as Superdave said.
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ucbhanna



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: RE: Reply with quote

Ooh, this is all REALLY great advice. Thanks so much for your help.
Maybe I'll play around with my camera a bit more before I give up on it and splurge on another one, heh.
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