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Eedoryeong
Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Location: Jeju
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: Question for gardening nerds... |
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Okay for those of you who live in Korea and have an actual patch of dirt you can grow something on...
...does anyone know how to get your soil pH tested here? We're thinking of growing a rose bush/vine along our yard wall.
I've read that 5 hours of sunlight is necessary for roses (we got that for this wall) and that they need a certain pH soil, and depending if it falls to more acidic or more base-like (basic?), changes what I'll get to correct it for success.
Perhaps not standard Dave's fare, but certainly complicated by being in Korea.
Helpful replies only, please.
Thanks! |
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OnTheOtherSide

Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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I used to grow roses back home and they grew like weeds, they tend to be very hardy and handle it wherever you plant then fairly well. I would say to just prep the soil well and go for it.
You actually have a yard here? You're lucky. I'm growing stuff in pots. |
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prideofidaho
Joined: 19 Mar 2008
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, I can't really help with the rose-bushes, but I can add that growing up we had lots of them, and we're not what you would call a family of greenthumbs...also, they were in a partly shady area of the yard...a place that got maybe 5-7 hours of daylight max.
I euthanised the last plant I owned and I need salvation from my sin.
Can someone point me in the direction of some good urban gardening lit? I've got the space for a multitude of pots and planters.
cheers! |
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Eedoryeong
Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Location: Jeju
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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prideofidaho wrote: |
they were in a partly shady area of the yard...a place that got maybe 5-7 hours of daylight max. |
That'd describe our western wall. It's got sunlight from sunrise to about 2-ish. There's a concrete space in the back I'm thinking of putting troughs on (or raised planters) but it gets 10am-sundown, so I'm iffy about whether it'll work. But the darn things come from the middle east. They should be hardy as you describe and not need such delicate care as other website authors suggest. Maybe they're talking about growing prize roses or something. Also I'm confused about this idea that they'll somehow grow like a vine and cover a wall. The only roses I've seen grown, grow in bushes.
(re: the yard, Yeah, we really lucked out. 'Nuff said for this board. But I've also seen plenty of scenarios where the schools kicked in together and got a nice apartment for a teacher couple. They can wind up with sun rooms and tons of space for planters and such.) |
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RJjr

Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Location: Turning on a Lamp
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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I've never tested soil, so I can't help you on that. But I will say that roses are tough plants. As long as it's where some rain can hit it, it'll probably live for decades. If you think the dirt looks and feels good enough, it probably is. |
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doc_ido

Joined: 03 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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The soil in Korea tends to be thin and rocky, and the rainfall is relatively high - this would suggest that it's acidic. However, I've never verified this.
You could possibly get litmus paper from a pharmacist and attempt to test a soil solution (dig a small hole and fill it with distilled water), or have a go at borrowing a pH meter from your local high school (be careful not to break the glass bulb if it's meant for liquids).
If you're going to improve your soil, I would definitely add lots of mulch to get the stuff to retain water and nutrients better. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Garden supply stores should sell simple testing kits & would understand the term "pH." |
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refikaM

Joined: 06 May 2006 Location: Gangwondo
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: roses |
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As an avid gardener back home, I'm sometimes in awe that anything grows in a lot of the soil I've seen here. It appears to lack organic nutrients of any kind. Roses are hardy, but they do like soil on the acidic side, which shouldn't be a prob here. Adding a large amount of any kind of organic material will help.. composted mulch derived from bark and manures is best, so if you can find some, I'd dig a few shovels full into each hole before planting... along with a manure or organic fertilizer if you can find any.. That should be sufficient in adjusting any PH deficiencies enough so that your roses will thrive... Roses love bone meal as well, but good luck finding that! Also, roses receiving anything less than 7 hrs of full sun will be leggy with smaller blooms and prone to black spot and powdery mildew. |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: Re: roses |
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refikaM wrote: |
Also, roses receiving anything less than 7 hrs of full sun will be leggy with smaller blooms and prone to black spot and powdery mildew. |
Sounds like you are describing my ex girlfriend there!! |
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Eedoryeong
Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Location: Jeju
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Man, I just passed by my VP and he had a rake turned over and was agitating the soil of the school green house (where the students keep their plant projects). I realized at this moment that I know nothing about gardening.
So there's hoeing, there's de-weeding (I have no idea how often I do that? Once a year? Once a week?) there's watering and there's seeding. And putting grass/mulch compost. Is that it? |
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BigBuds

Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Location: Changwon
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: |
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If you go to the animal/aquarium section of E-mart you'll find Ph testing kits.
They're designed for water but all you need to do is put some of the soil in a pot (decent sized pot) and pour some water through it. Let the water drain to the tray at the bottom and sit for a few minutes. Then test the water as the kit's instructions say. It'll give you a reasonably accurate reading. Don't worry if there's a little bit of soil in the water you're testing. |
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Zutronius

Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Location: Suncheon
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Eedoryeong wrote: |
Man, I just passed by my VP and he had a rake turned over and was agitating the soil of the school green house (where the students keep their plant projects). I realized at this moment that I know nothing about gardening.
So there's hoeing, there's de-weeding (I have no idea how often I do that? Once a year? Once a week?) there's watering and there's seeding. And putting grass/mulch compost. Is that it? |
Another Mokpoite?
Where are you working? Good job on getting a place that has a patch of land you can grow something on. I'm stuck to growing dill and rosemary on my windowsill.  |
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blackjack

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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BigBuds wrote: |
If you go to the animal/aquarium section of E-mart you'll find Ph testing kits.
They're designed for water but all you need to do is put some of the soil in a pot (decent sized pot) and pour some water through it. Let the water drain to the tray at the bottom and sit for a few minutes. Then test the water as the kit's instructions say. It'll give you a reasonably accurate reading. Don't worry if there's a little bit of soil in the water you're testing. |
As a control you may want to test just the water as well |
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Eedoryeong
Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Location: Jeju
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refikaM

Joined: 06 May 2006 Location: Gangwondo
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject: weed |
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It's definitely NOT an onion of any kind.. almost looks like sweet potato, but the leaves are a bit different... Can you take it to a nursery to have it identifiied? Get a Korean person to help you if need it? |
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