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glimmer
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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 Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: Director wants to borrow diploma again |
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I know there's been some discussion about employers wanting to "temporarily borrow" passports after you arrive in Korea, but I couldn't find any answer to this question.
I sent my original diploma to the hagwon (getting a notarised copy would have been just as expensive as replacing a lost original!) and claimed it back from the director when I arrived in Korea.
Shortly after I arrived the director asked for the diploma again because "We now need it to register you as a teacher in Korea". Tentatively I handed over the certificate for the second time and was relieved when it was returned to me.
What is this business about having to be "registered as a teacher"? Is there some Korean Teachers council that registers foreign teachers independent of Korean Immigration? I work for a private hagwon that teaches adults, if that's relevant.
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losing_touch
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Director wants to borrow diploma again |
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| glimmer wrote: |
I know there's been some discussion about employers wanting to "temporarily borrow" passports after you arrive in Korea, but I couldn't find any answer to this question.
I sent my original diploma to the hagwon (getting a notarised copy would have been just as expensive as replacing a lost original!) and claimed it back from the director when I arrived in Korea.
Shortly after I arrived the director asked for the diploma again because "We now need it to register you as a teacher in Korea". Tentatively I handed over the certificate for the second time and was relieved when it was returned to me.
What is this business about having to be "registered as a teacher"? Is there some teacher's council that registers foreign teachers independent of Korean Immigration? I work for a private hagwon that teaches adults, if that's relevant. |
You have to be registered with the local education office but a simple photocopy would have been just as good as the original. |
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DavePuff
Joined: 01 Jan 2005
Location: Daegu, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:21 am Post subject: |
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They do need it again, but god knows why seeing as you should already have the working visa.
I've never seen a country with so much pointless paperwork (or blank papers with red stamps). |
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semi-fly
Joined: 07 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:30 am Post subject: |
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They do need it again, but god knows why seeing as you should already have the working visa.
I've never seen a country with so much pointless paperwork (or blank papers with red stamps). |
It keeps the government moving. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| If you're worried that they will "lose it", then offer to carry it with you to the office where they will check. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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yeah the diploma is used twice.
first for Immi then for the MoE, but copies should be sufficient. |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:00 am Post subject: |
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Make a copy and then put it in a SAFE and SECURE place.
Don't tell ANYONE where it is.  |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:33 am Post subject: |
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I have been here 7 years and not once bought my degree here. I have always used a stamped and certified copy (done by Korean embassy) and that has been acceptable. One time they even posted my color copy on the wall of the school.
Why do you even bother bringing it here? I know thats what they say:
"But do as I say, not as I do" is the motto of Korea.
So Why bring your diploma here when a LEGALLY CERTIFIED COPY will do?  |
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DavePuff
Joined: 01 Jan 2005
Location: Daegu, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
| So Why bring your diploma here when a LEGALLY CERTIFIED COPY will do? |
Not all places will accept a legal copy. Seriously, a few places told me they wouldn't under any circumstance.
That said, why wouldn't you want you degree within arms distance of you. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| That said, why wouldn't you want you degree within arms distance of you. |
Because within 5 minutes of someone asking me for it, they usually want to take it from me.
It is also not for a reason that justifies it being more than arms distance from me.
I know where my degree is and its a lot safer than within an arms lenght of a boss/ co teacher in this country and that is where I currently am.[/b] |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| DavePuff wrote: |
| I've never seen a country with so much pointless paperwork (or blank papers with red stamps). |
Go to Japan. You'll be amazed. |
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glimmer
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
I have been here 7 years and not once bought my degree here. I have always used a stamped and certified copy (done by Korean embassy) and that has been acceptable. One time they even posted my color copy on the wall of the school.
Why do you even bother bringing it here? I know thats what they say:
"But do as I say, not as I do" is the motto of Korea.
So Why bring your diploma here when a LEGALLY CERTIFIED COPY will do? |
I'm from New Zealand. As I recall I was informed that the Korean Consulate in N.Z. will not notarize photocopies of diplomas for E2 visa purposes. That means you have to pay the equivalent of $US 50 for a lawyer or Notary Public to notarize a copy. Actually, I think you then have to fork out an extra $US 30 to get a government Apostille on top of that notarised photocopy! Since I was broke at the time and fed up with all the other visa-related costs I decided to just send the original.
If worse comes to worst and my original diploma gets lost/destroyed, then my university would charge me the equivalent of $US 50 to replace it. By sending the original I've saved at least $50 so far. 
Also, some countries do insist on sighting the original diploma - I might want to travel to one of those after finishing in Korea.
There is method in my madness. |
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sojusucks
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:51 am Post subject: |
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When applying for a visa, I had to show my diploma and visa.
After arriving and before working, I had to visit the Immigration office and show them my diploma and visa once again. Maybe your hogwon is taking them to Immigration without you. |
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losing_touch
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| sojusucks wrote: |
| When applying for a visa, I had to show my diploma and visa. |
You had a visa ... Then, you applied for a visa? |
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