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birdfool
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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 Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject: Working on the Red Days |
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I have a question about labor law...
I've seen the section about how work on national holidays should be paid at time and a half but I'm wondering if it really applies to us as English teachers since we are not contracted as full time workers. Most of us have teaching hours stipulated in the 20-30 range, not 40. Does this national holiday pay apply to us?
also, i'd like to add that...my school sucks. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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If you do work on a holiday, the pay is still at 1.5*
8*1.5 = 12
4*1.5 = 6 |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't know where you work, but at a public school one is certainly classified as 'full time'. We may be scheduled to teach only 22 hrs. per week, but we 'work' 8 hrs. per day Mon. - Fri. (or 40 hrs. per week). |
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birdfool
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| at a private elementary school. we are allowed to leave earlier than i used to at public school, 2-2:30pm depending on class scheds. |
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Huh Kyung-young
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Working on the Red Days |
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| birdfool wrote: |
I have a question about labor law...
I've seen the section about how work on national holidays should be paid at time and a half but I'm wondering if it really applies to us as English teachers since we are not contracted as full time workers. Most of us have teaching hours stipulated in the 20-30 range, not 40. Does this national holiday pay apply to us?
also, i'd like to add that...my school sucks. |
Are you legally entitled to time and a half = YES.
(daily rate (based on salary/31) *1.5),
NOT (overtime rate or class hours)*1.5)
Are you likely to get it = NO.
IF you work for CDI you will NOT get it (100% guarantee).
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it's one day per month for menstruation leave. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Huh Kyung-young wrote: |
| Under Korean law, full-time means more than 15 hours a week. |
I only work 12 hours. I am considered full-time. |
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antoniothegreat
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| i think the more important question is, why are you working on red days? |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: |
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| At my school, we had a teachers' meeting which lasted for 4 hours, on the Korean independence day. Also, we are going to have another meeting of similar length on the upcoming October 3rd holiday. I certainly am not getting any extra pay for those meetings. Of course, I am bitter or anything, but it certainly would be nice to have some sort of compensation for what would normally be a day off. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| Konglishman wrote: |
| At my school, we had a teachers' meeting which lasted for 4 hours, on the Korean independence day. Also, we are going to have another meeting of similar length on the upcoming October 3rd holiday. I certainly am not getting any extra pay for those meetings. Of course, I am bitter or anything, but it certainly would be nice to have some sort of compensation for what would normally be a day off. |
ummm ... doesn't your contract have a stipulation that you do not work on national holidays?
Just say no. They are not going to fire you over it (unless you are Korean).
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| Konglishman wrote: |
| At my school, we had a teachers' meeting which lasted for 4 hours, on the Korean independence day. Also, we are going to have another meeting of similar length on the upcoming October 3rd holiday. I certainly am not getting any extra pay for those meetings. Of course, I am bitter or anything, but it certainly would be nice to have some sort of compensation for what would normally be a day off. |
ummm ... doesn't your contract have a stipulation that you do not work on national holidays?
Just say no. They are not going to fire you over it (unless you are Korean).
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Actually, my contract does not have that stipulation. Anyways, I would rather not jeopardize getting a good letter of recommendation from the principle at the end of my job contract. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| Konglishman wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
| Konglishman wrote: |
| At my school, we had a teachers' meeting which lasted for 4 hours, on the Korean independence day. Also, we are going to have another meeting of similar length on the upcoming October 3rd holiday. I certainly am not getting any extra pay for those meetings. Of course, I am bitter or anything, but it certainly would be nice to have some sort of compensation for what would normally be a day off. |
ummm ... doesn't your contract have a stipulation that you do not work on national holidays?
Just say no. They are not going to fire you over it (unless you are Korean).
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Actually, my contract does not have that stipulation. Anyways, I would rather not jeopardize getting a good letter of recommendation from the principle at the end of my job contract. |
A letter of recommendation from a hakwon or hakwon princiPAL is meaningless (here or at home).
Just make sure you get the certificate of employment (BTW, they are REQUIRED by law to give it to you).
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:01 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| Konglishman wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
| Konglishman wrote: |
| At my school, we had a teachers' meeting which lasted for 4 hours, on the Korean independence day. Also, we are going to have another meeting of similar length on the upcoming October 3rd holiday. I certainly am not getting any extra pay for those meetings. Of course, I am bitter or anything, but it certainly would be nice to have some sort of compensation for what would normally be a day off. |
ummm ... doesn't your contract have a stipulation that you do not work on national holidays?
Just say no. They are not going to fire you over it (unless you are Korean).
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Actually, my contract does not have that stipulation. Anyways, I would rather not jeopardize getting a good letter of recommendation from the principle at the end of my job contract. |
A letter of recommendation from a hakwon or hakwon princiPAL is meaningless (here or at home).
Just make sure you get the certificate of employment (BTW, they are REQUIRED by law to give it to you).
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If that was the case, I would certainly agree with you, but I am not working at a hagwon. I am working at an international school. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:32 am Post subject: |
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| Konglishman wrote: |
| I am working at an international school. |
Then they should know better. |
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