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EzeWong
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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 Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: Anyone else have this problem? |
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I outright refuse to date or marry anyone who has had plastic surgery.
Does anyone else feel the same way? Or similar? |
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Underwaterbob
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| What if it was corrective? Like for some burns suffered in an accident. |
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EzeWong
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Touche.
In that case I would say yes onliy if its close to her original self and she didn't try to revamp her entire face.
I think it's the principal of the thing that gets to me. To get under the knife because you feel insecure about how you look just bothers me. EVERYONE at some point is insecure about the way they look.
If the doctor made her gorgeous without consulting her I'd think that'd be fine too. As long as she didn't ask to be made into Lee Hyori |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Underwaterbob wrote: |
| What if it was corrective? Like for some burns suffered in an accident. |
Well, that's okay.
I would never date or marry anyone who had plastic surgery to get a job or to be happy with themselves.
I want to marry a girl who wears a t-shirt/sweater and jeans everyday. I want a girl with a casual disrespect of authority, a flexible middle finger and a sense of self-confidence, independence and pride.
Introduce me to a Korean girl like this and I will marry her in front of you  |
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nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Where's the line drawn: Laser eye-surgery because it's cheaper in the long-term and more convenient or asthetically pleasing than windscreens? |
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kimchi_pizza
Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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You know, I got this problem *cough* "down there"....it
started as a rash and *ahem*! then a scratchy sensation...
Wait...that's not you're talk'n about.... |
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Kimbop
Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm with you ezewong! I feel the same way! |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| kimchi_pizza wrote: |
You know, I got this problem *cough* "down there"....it
started as a rash and *ahem*! then a scratchy sensation...
Wait...that's not you're talk'n about.... |
I was thinking the same thing when I saw the thread title. Are you using any ointments? |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:10 am Post subject: Re: Anyone else have this problem? |
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| EzeWong wrote: |
I outright refuse to date or marry anyone who has had plastic surgery.
Does anyone else feel the same way? Or similar? |
If the surgery was done well, you wouldn't know. So would you turn down hot girls if you just suspected they had had something done?
Even if you did know, it would be harsh on yourself to turn down a gorgeous girl, with a cool personality, just because she had her nose reshaped a bit. Or a line put in her eyelids. Harsh.
If you live in Gangnam, get used to being single.
You know, a lot of smart, career-minded girls get cosmetic surgery because they are realists and know very well that looks go a long way in Korea. Or anywhere.
A beautiful face and a great rack is a beautiful face and a great rack, to me. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: Re: Anyone else have this problem? |
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| eamo wrote: |
| A beautiful face and a great rack is a beautiful face and a great rack, to me. |
Amen. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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eamo wrote:
A beautiful face and a great rack is a beautiful face and a great rack, to me.
Even if she turns out to be a he? |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| While I agree wholeheartedly that the mentality required for someone to surgically alter their body out of vanity is not something I look for in a potential mate, I'd be hard pressed to turn down some random, incredibly gorgeous woman who's begging me for a date and happens to have had a nose job, if I didn't already have a great girlfriend anyhow. |
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Gamecock
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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OP,
I bet you'd be ok if your GF had braces to make a nice smile, right? How do you feel about make-up? How about someone who spends 3 hours a day in the gym? Are you ok with a woman who is her "natural" self, but likes to wear expensive fashion clothes? Is jewelry ok? How about friends who drive sports cars or luxury sedans?
Really, people do ALL sorts of things because they are insecure about who they are or to make themselves more attractive to others. Who cares? Most of these women are happy with themselves, and you would never know they had ever had surgery if you weren't told.
The question is, what do YOU do because you are insecure about yourself? Get off your pedestal, dude. |
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EzeWong
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul
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lol funny response gamecock.
Outward alterations like makeup aren't the same:
1) Makeup is common
2) makeup doesn't require self mutalation.
3) Makeup is TEMPORARY
4) Makeup enhances natural beauty, not change it.
Be real, applying color to my face versus, filing off bone from my nose are two totally different procedures. Yes, it's the different means to same end, but it's not that simple. There are notions of morality, perception, and society that factor.
Everyone has a reason WHY they do it. I have no personal vendetta against people who get plastic surgery. The real thing that upsets me is when society pushes people into thinking they aren't beautiful and have to cut up their insides to conform to our own ideals. Victims of cleft, burns, or deformities have solid foundations to get surgery. People who think their nose isn't pointy enough abuse it.
Do you want a world where your daughter is obsessive over the milimeter distance from her nose to eyes? Or that she doesn't have two folds in her eyelid?I don't want my daughter growing up in a world that makes her insecure and she thinks that there is some easy fix like cutting herself up.
I know women have a lot of pressure to look good. There are so many benefits to being beautiful. And gawking if you're percieved not beautiful. It can be hurtful and life itself is a lot harder...
I understand, everyone feels insecure about the way the look. However, the mature way to deal with it is to accept it. Nothing is going to change the way you look, accept it and work with it by enchaning it with makeup, clothing etc.
If she cannot accept her looks, then I believe the she has an emotional immaturity. Obviously, she is fixated on looks, which is probably why I can't date her. I don't want the mother of my children to unwilling to accept reality by taking easy roads out.
Like the long version? You forced my hand. |
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Gamecock
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, you answered the easy one: make-up.
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| I understand, everyone feels insecure about the way the look. However, the mature way to deal with it is to accept it. Nothing is going to change the way you look, accept it and work with it by enchaning it with makeup, clothing etc. |
How about cosmetic dental procedures for crooked teeth? Will you buy your daughter braces? Shouldn't she just accept it?
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Outward alterations like makeup aren't the same:
1) Makeup is common
2) makeup doesn't require self mutalation.
3) Makeup is TEMPORARY
4) Makeup enhances natural beauty, not change it. |
1. I would say plastic surgery is becoming common in Korea.
2. Self mutilation? (now you sound like my Grandmother on tattoos. Are you against these too?) More like a safe medical procedure.
3. Why is it fine to change your appearance temporarily? Makes me think of padded bras. If it's good enough for short term, why not a permanent change.
4. enhance, change...hmmm.
It just seems you've drawn some very arbitrary lines. My grandmother thought make-up was vain and evil and quoted almost the same argument 20 years ago as you have against plastic surgery. My guess is your thinking is rooted in some sort of old judeo-christian idea that "this is how God created you" and you should accept what He has given you. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I suspect there is an idea of somehow corrupting one's natural self as an unholy act. I know tons of VERY insecure people with physical flaws. Why is it bad for them to want to fix these things so they can feel more confident?
You say "nothing is going to change the way you look," yet with modern technology we CAN change the way we look. There are people addicted to plastic surgery and abuse it, but for a vast majority this is simply not the case. They just want to feel better about their appearance and feel more attractive. You may think this is immoral or vain, I'm convinced it's no worse than being self-righteous in judging others. You call this an easy way out and immature. You say you don't have a vendetta, yet your feelings are strong enough to post your opinion and obviously tell everyone how you feel about it. And clearly you feel you have the "mature" position on this matter and are looking to be validated here on this board.
And finally, the REAL question is, would you date or marry an ugly girl if she was all-natural???????? Hmmm... |
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