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dean_burrito

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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject: What's the deal with this sentence. |
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Getting up early, the dog barked.
It is just confusing to me. Is dog the subject? Is there an understood subject? Some of my co-teachers say it is a correct sentence. Others say it is not. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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If the dog got up early it's correct. If it's someone else who got up early it's a dangling participle. |
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FMPJ
Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: |
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It means the dog barked simultaneously with its act of getting up. More logical would be:
Having gotten up early, the dog barked.
There's still the odd issue of cause: There's not really a logical connection between the two ideas, so it doesn't feel very natural to place them in one sentence.
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aka Dave
Joined: 02 May 2008 Location: Down by the river
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:55 am Post subject: |
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You're right, there's no logical connection between getting up early and barking. The barking implies something woke the dog and he barked in response (like a burglar!)
(Early one morning/Before dawn),The dog awoke spasmodically, and barked/started barking/growled. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:30 am Post subject: |
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Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
If the dog got up early it's correct. If it's someone else who got up early it's a dangling participle. |
Maybe he enjoys dangling his participle.
It can be quite satisfying. |
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Oliver

Joined: 19 Apr 2008 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: What's the deal with this sentence. |
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dean_burrito wrote: |
Getting up early, the dog barked.
It is just confusing to me. Is dog the subject? Is there an understood subject? Some of my co-teachers say it is a correct sentence. Others say it is not. |
Maybe it is just me but I would have written the dog got up early and it barked. |
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jadarite

Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Location: Andong, Yeongyang, Seoul, now Pyeongtaek
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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It's like "getting up early" is functioning as a modified adverb (I don't know what modified adverb would be in linguistic terms). Maybe call it a "relative adverb" (see below for reasons why).
Korean and Japanese double up on words that we would normally write out with other words.
Example A: A Korean (In Korean it would be "Korean Person", 한국인 )
They also do this with relative pronouns. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_pronoun
Example B: A person who ate pizza (Japanese at least write it out like "pizza ate person" ). I have seen similar things with Korean.
The idea is that you combine 2 simple sentences to make up one (as Oliver pointed out). We use who, that, where, which, and when to connect these 2 sentences.
So, it looks to me as if the original poster quite possibly got this from a textbook based in an Asian country. However, it's not that bizarre of a sentence and makes practical sense. |
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fancypants
Joined: 22 May 2005
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: What's the deal with this sentence. |
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dean_burrito wrote: |
Getting up early, the dog barked.
It is just confusing to me. Is dog the subject? Is there an understood subject? Some of my co-teachers say it is a correct sentence. Others say it is not. |
The sentence is correct, but a little weird. And yes, the dog's the subject. It's a reduced adverbial clause...the full sentence would be "while getting up early, the dog barked". It there's no "be" verb in the clause and the subject is the same in both clauses, it can be reduced this way.
http://www.eslgold.com/grammar/reducing_adverbial_clauses.html
It's the same as "While walking his dog, he spied a magpie"/"Walking his dog, he spied a magpie".
I think it's weird because "to get up" is kind of a stative thing, not the sort of thing that can be thought of in a continuous sense. |
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zpeanut

Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Location: Pohang, Korea
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:43 am Post subject: Re: What's the deal with this sentence. |
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fancypants wrote: |
dean_burrito wrote: |
Getting up early, the dog barked.
It is just confusing to me. Is dog the subject? Is there an understood subject? Some of my co-teachers say it is a correct sentence. Others say it is not. |
The sentence is correct, but a little weird. And yes, the dog's the subject. It's a reduced adverbial clause...the full sentence would be "while getting up early, the dog barked". It there's no "be" verb in the clause and the subject is the same in both clauses, it can be reduced this way.
http://www.eslgold.com/grammar/reducing_adverbial_clauses.html
It's the same as "While walking his dog, he spied a magpie"/"Walking his dog, he spied a magpie".
I think it's weird because "to get up" is kind of a stative thing, not the sort of thing that can be thought of in a continuous sense. |
^your pants are indeed fancy. Good explanation. |
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