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Goodbye American Cultural Dominance

 
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Goodbye American Cultural Dominance Reply with quote

It's been fun while it lasted. We gave an awed world such gems as Gilligan's Island, the Brady Bunch, the Beverly Hillbillies...and it's been evident since reality shows hit the airwaves that creativity was bankrupt, but...

Case in point:

Life on Mars

Where were you in 1973? NYPD Detective Sam Tyler (Jason O'Mara) finds himself in the cultural hotbed of New York City in the tumultuous times of the Vietnam War, Watergate, women's lib and the civil and gay rights movements - without a cell phone, computer, PDA or MP3 player -- suddenly hurtled back in time when he's ripped from 2008 after being hit by a car while chasing down a criminal. He's trying mightily to understand what has just happened to him and how he can get back "home."

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lifeonmars/index?pn=bio#t=actor

Harvey Keitel, what's happened to you? Shocked You used to have integrity. Talent.
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PeteJB



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YAROABS!

(Yet Another Ripoff Of A British Series)
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dammit, I thought they'd cast Colm Meaney in Keitel's role.
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Goodbye American Cultural Dominance Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
It's been fun while it lasted. We gave an awed world such gems as Gilligan's Island, the Brady Bunch, the Beverly Hillbillies...


Actually you gave Canada those things. Outside America not many people even know those were TV programmes.
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Goodbye American Cultural Dominance Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
It's been fun while it lasted. We gave an awed world such gems as Gilligan's Island, the Brady Bunch, the Beverly Hillbillies...and it's been evident since reality shows hit the airwaves that creativity was bankrupt, but...

Case in point:

Life on Mars

Where were you in 1973? NYPD Detective Sam Tyler (Jason O'Mara) finds himself in the cultural hotbed of New York City in the tumultuous times of the Vietnam War, Watergate, women's lib and the civil and gay rights movements - without a cell phone, computer, PDA or MP3 player -- suddenly hurtled back in time when he's ripped from 2008 after being hit by a car while chasing down a criminal. He's trying mightily to understand what has just happened to him and how he can get back "home."

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lifeonmars/index?pn=bio#t=actor

Harvey Keitel, what's happened to you? Shocked You used to have integrity. Talent.


With all the crap out there you pick on this show? Its just a period piece with a solid cast. I dont know if it will be good, but I know it definitely wont be the worst out there.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(Yet Another Ripoff Of A British Series)


You mean there is another programing department on this earth that gets the real blame for this atrocity? I guess that takes the Americans off the hook for this one. I probably should change the thread title, but End of British Cultural Dominance is a few decades late.

If you're going to have a cheesy set-up like a time-travelling detective, why oh why choose 1973? Major lapse of taste.

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Actually you gave Canada those things.

I chose those shows to indicate that 95% of TV has always been crap.
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Junkyardninja



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course 95% of television has always been crap. It's not an American issue at all. 95% or more of what has been put out in any medium, in any country, since the invention of papyrus has been utter crap. Go to any large 'normal' bookstore, and pick 20 books off the shelf. Odds are, 19 of them will be utter bollocks. Same goes for movies, radio shows, music CDs, you name it. The exceptions are the internet, where 99.9% of sites are pointless, and human speech, which is comparable. The only hope is that some of the time the good stuff gets preserved and the rest binned.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I suppose I could grasp at the Cold War mythos where American jazz liberated minds beyond the Iron Curtain.

But I'd rather indulge in the more truthful cynicism that pop culture is not soft power.

Still, this new show sounds like it has more promise than Survivor 4B(i)(V): Ghana. The fact that it was once a British show speaks well for it.

Harvey Keitel? I'm not surprised.
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PeteJB



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:


You mean there is another programing department on this earth that gets the real blame for this atrocity? I guess that takes the Americans off the hook for this one. I probably should change the thread title, but End of British Cultural Dominance is a few decades late.
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Yes, but American networks achieve the impossible. They often take an already rubbish programme and make it worse.
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JMO



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Wire, Deadwood and the Sopranos all came out of the states. HBO still makes the best TV in the world.

Of course Deadwood and the Wire would never have survived on another channel. It pisses me off that the BBC don't put out more quality stuff seeing as they have license fees to play with.
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Jandar



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best new show is True Blood.

http://www.hbo.com/trueblood/

Are you a Fang Banger?
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JMO



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jandar wrote:
Best new show is True Blood.

http://www.hbo.com/trueblood/

Are you a Fang Banger?


Best opening credits I have ever seen. The show doesn't quite live up to them but still pretty good.
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shifter2009



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
The Wire, Deadwood and the Sopranos all came out of the states. HBO still makes the best TV in the world.

Of course Deadwood and the Wire would never have survived on another channel. It pisses me off that the BBC don't put out more quality stuff seeing as they have license fees to play with.


They did make the best TV in the world but those shows are all down now. I think Showtime has got them now with Dexter, Brotherhood, ect. HBO still does some good work with True Blood, Entourage and Generation Kill but their not as awesome as they once were.
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JMO



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shifter2009 wrote:
JMO wrote:
The Wire, Deadwood and the Sopranos all came out of the states. HBO still makes the best TV in the world.

Of course Deadwood and the Wire would never have survived on another channel. It pisses me off that the BBC don't put out more quality stuff seeing as they have license fees to play with.


They did make the best TV in the world but those shows are all down now. I think Showtime has got them now with Dexter, Brotherhood, ect. HBO still does some good work with True Blood, Entourage and Generation Kill but their not as awesome as they once were.


I like Brotherhood but just cannot get sold on Dexter. The Wire has only been down a year and there has never been anything at that level on tv. I think we can let them rest on their laurels a little.
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