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What's the big hype over Plug-in Hybrids?
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Konglishman



Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pokesplort wrote:
ok its been awhile since i've seen it, but the movie "who killed the electric car" is fantastic for anyone interested in how and why electric cars would be better. it also really pisses you off when you realize that we dont have them because basically oil companies would make no money then. there were electric cars, i think it was the 90's, but the company that made them recalled them and destroyed them even though the people who had leased them still wanted them, protested, etc etc. like i said, its been a little while since i've seen it but its really really good. i would totally get an all electric car. and it would be nice to know an estimate on how much your house electric bill would cost if you plugged it in. still i feel like it would not be as much as most people pay for gas. frack gas. i also read this neat article on cnn about people converting their hybrids to all electric.


http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/09/30/hybrid.electric.conversion/index.html?iref=newssearch


Actually, during World War II, due to the gasoline rationing, my great-grandfather decided to build an electric car that was able to go far enough to get family members across town. My mother recently showed me a picture of it. He built it from all spare parts. The wheels were actually bicycle wheels.


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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Re: What's the big hype over Plug-in Hybrids? Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/10/plug-ins-arent.html

I read the article, and I don't see how these environmentalists think plug-ins are better for the environment. Sure, your car will run mostly on Electricity. The electricity is coming mostly from Coal power plants.

Also, I would imagine if you plug your car in to charge every night, your electricity bill is going to skyrocket.

Many major metropolitan cities struggle over the summer when every household has their AC cranked up. How the hell are they going to handle the power when people starting plugging their cars into the grid.


The hope is that these hybrids will give a financial pull to investigate alternative ways to generate energy.

The problem is that once people start generating their own energy, some people will not be happy about that. That will be a real freedom generator!

There are already technologies developed which could allow people to become self sufficient in energy. Why is this not kicking in?

So a plug in hybrid combined with self sufficiency is the future of freedom and mankind.
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Juregen



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:
saw6436 wrote:
Pardon my ignorance, but why should it be necessary to plug in your car at all? Seems to me that there could be an on board generator that could recharge your battery. Perhaps something utilizing the rotation of the tires? I don't know, not an engineer.


I don't think it would make enough gain. You would always be using power more quickly than you could gain it, and while it would be feasible, it simply wouldn't be practical for many.

Unless you could invent a perpetual motion machine.

"In my house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!" - Homer Simpson. Very Happy


Braking creates energy that can be stored, which is otherwise lost.

I drove a hybrid, and driving from Amsterdam to Geneva and back up again I had to tank twice ....

I used 3.7 liter of gasoline per 100km. Before that i had a BMW sport edition, and i used 7l per 100km, and that was considered good ....

you tell me.
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