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Nowhere Man



Joined: 08 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:51 am    Post subject: Best Town Hall Meeting so far Reply with quote

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"I'm mad! I'm really mad!" another man said, taking the microphone and refusing to surrender it easily, even when McCain tried to agree with him.

"I'm not done. Lemme finish, please," he said after a standing ovation. "When you have Obama, [House Speaker Nancy] Pelosi and the rest of the hooligans up there going to run the country, we have to have our head examined.

"It's time that you two represent the rest of us. So go get 'em."

The crowd burst into loud chants of "U-S-A! U-S-A!"

Standing at the center of the crowd, McCain and Palin drew on the crowd's energy as they repeatedly trained their fire on Obama.

"Senator Obama has a clear radical, far-left, pro-abortion record," McCain said after being asked about the issue.

The answer prompted a shower of boos from the crowd members. They booed again when he mentioned William Ayers, who bombed U.S. facilities to protest the Vietnam War as part of the domestic terrorist group the Weather Underground. They booed again at the mention of Rep. Barney Frank, a liberal from Massachusetts.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/09/AR2008100903169_2.html

The footage of this is quite amusing.

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"I can't stand to look at him, I don't trust him. I don't like the circle of friends he keeps, I don't like his policies," Schmitz said of Obama. "I'm pissed off by it. I'm beyond mad. How is he climbing up in the polls?"


Yay, GOP Lady, welcome to the world '04.
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DCJames



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of those people at the rallies look like paid actors who memorized lines.

I wouldn't put it past old man McCain to do such a thing either. Confused
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DCJames wrote:
Some of those people at the rallies look like paid actors who memorized lines.


That is how people are now. The talking points have filtered down past the cobwebs into the base of their mind and all they can do is parrot whatever they heard last.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shmi6k5s-I0


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Join Me



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hasn't eight years of Bush and the "Grand Old Party" been enough? Is there something more we can lose in addition to our jobs, homes and retirement investments?
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama as "terrorist":

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/Obama_as_terrorist.html

And this was posted on a non-leftist blog. The threats against him that are being encouraged by McCain/Palin are getting out of hand. Freedom of speech does not include the right to threaten people.
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mises



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are far-right people. Nothing you can do for them.
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bangbayed



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course not everyone who supports McCain is a narrow-minded racist. But who exactly are the narrow-minded racists supporting? And is McCain encouraging or discouraging that behaviour at his rallies? Disgraceful.

He thinks he can win by doing what Bush did to him in 2000.

McCain truly has no soul left.
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ddeubel



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The McPalin show should get syndicated. They could even make an animated version set between Alaska and Washington. The Family Guy could do some cameo appearances....

And people wonder why.....

On a side note, this column made me both laugh and think...

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/oct/05/opinion/oe-guttman5

See the world, get elected

Amend the Constitution: We need leaders who�re well-traveled.

By Peter Guttman

There she is, a woman with a �great personal story to tell,� explaining proudly and somewhat derisively to CBS anchorwoman Katie Couric that she�s �not one of those who maybe came from a background of, you know, kids who perhaps graduate college and their parents give them a passport and give them a backpack and say go off and travel the world.�

Leave aside for a moment the fact that two decades have passed since college in the life of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and that she only managed to get a passport and leave the country for the first time last year. The real point is this: To most American citizens, geographical knowledge and a curiosity about the world has become the poor orphaned stepchild of our increasingly anemic educational system.

Although historians will long debate how this country arrived at the global mess it�s now in, it seems clear that much of it could have been prevented. In fact, I believe that a relatively simple amendment to the Constitution could prevent it from happening again. Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution, drafted in 1787, says that only natural-born Americans, at least 35 years of age, who have lived in the country for 14 years can serve as president or vice president. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) has proposed (apparently with his friend, Arnold Schwarzenegger, firmly in mind) that this antiquated provision could best be corrected by opening the presidency to foreign-born U.S. citizens.

But this adjustment misses the real point. Although a revision to this section is much needed, I believe that qualifications should not be loosened but rather tightened. I suggest the Constitution be amended to require that candidates for the presidency (and vice presidential selections as well) have visited a minimum of 20 countries. The amendment would require that each visit would have been made more than four years before the candidate�s possible inauguration and that it would have lasted at least 48 hours. This serves as proof that a candidate is genuinely interested in, and possibly even knowledgeable about, the world around him or her.

In the 21st century (unlike the period during which the Constitution was written), travel no longer means days of arduous journey by stagecoach or months aboard a steamship to reach an overseas destination. In a country that hopes to lead the world toward a more enlightened future, it is no longer acceptable to allow the reins of American leadership to reside in the hands of anyone lacking what is perhaps the most valuable credential of all � the experience of foreign travel.

Sadly, we ignored a red flag during our previous two presidential campaigns. Quite simply, a middle-aged man of considerable means and privilege who has freely chosen in his first fortysomething years on this planet to visit fewer than four countries (of the almost 200 United Nations� members) should not be permitted to captain our nation. It is plainly irresponsible to allow a blindfolded driver to navigate through the increasingly chaotic rush-hour traffic of global development, aided only by an off-key chorus of back-seat drivers. Our recent myopic, good-versus-evil attitude toward foreign policy has been one of the obvious results. Our current cartoon perspective on the world could have been sensibly altered with the experience-tempered subtlety and sophistication of leaders who have spent time outside the country.

It�s shocking enough that an embarrassing percentage of our congressional members do not actually have passports. That lack of curiosity may be oddly acceptable, even preferable, in some isolationist quarters where votes might well be based on the drinking-buddy likability of those �just like us.� However, when sizing up a potential president of the United States, geographic ignorance should be a disqualifying factor.

Some may feel that this requirement is elitist. But is it? During the last century, has there really been any serious presidential candidate who couldn�t afford to travel? In the case of those who didn�t, I suspect the real issue has been lack of interest, not lack of money. If requiring candidates to demonstrate an interest in the world is elitism, then we need more of it.

The simple fact is, when we close our eyes to the perspectives of others, we lose crucial strategic knowledge. Whatever the complications are in changing the Constitution, they will pale in comparison to the tragic complications we�ll continue to face because of its absence.

Peter Guttman has written five books on travel and has visited more than 200 countries. He holds a degree in geography.
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khyber



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it McPalin bother saying all that twaddle to people who have already swallowed it?

IF you ACTUALLY believed it, why don't you go spread it around? I mean, it's clear the retards are all fulled up with the talkin' points. Why don't they try to rope in MORE suckers? Or perhaps they've realized that winning the presidency means they'd have to put a more concentrated focus on...I don't know...issues. And that kinda work? Forget it.

I remember thinking that this "obama=terrorist" mindset wouldn't possibly be an issue. Though I thought that more than a year ago before desperation was sitting in. And of course, I thought the Republican base had a slightly higher capacity for rational thought.


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Zutronius



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Join Me wrote:
Hasn't eight years of Bush and the "Grand Old Party" been enough? Is there something more we can lose in addition to our jobs, homes and retirement investments?


Freedom/free speech/power to think independently?
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The Hammer



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

delete

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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why is it McPalin bother saying all that twaddle to people who have already swallowed it?


Because those are the only people who would put up with it? Everyone else wants discussion of the issues and McCain has nothing to say on the issues that anyone wants to hear. Everyone knows the Republican Contract With America crowd bears the greatest share of the blame for the debacle and there is nothing McCain can do to escape that.

All really that is left is for him to try to keep his base stirred up enough to vote so he isn't completely and totally humiliated in the Electoral College.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Hammer wrote:
McCain, Palin, and their supporters are pathetic.


Thanks for that.
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Join Me



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zutronius wrote:
Join Me wrote:
Hasn't eight years of Bush and the "Grand Old Party" been enough? Is there something more we can lose in addition to our jobs, homes and retirement investments?


Freedom/free speech/power to think independently?


Guantanamo Bay? Wiring tapping? I assumed everyone knew Bush already stripped us of many of those so called "freedoms" we used to be allowed under a democracy.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
The Hammer wrote:
McCain, Palin, and their supporters are pathetic.


Thanks for that.


The Hammer is right.

I accept your thanks in advance. Wink
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