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legalquestions
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 Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:20 am Post subject: Koreans wearing white gloves during ceremonies? |
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| In suits, but wearing white gloves at ribbon cuttings, grand openings, awards ceremonies, etc.; you've seen it, right? What does it signify? What is the origin? Anyone know? |
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victorology
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Koreans wearing white gloves during ceremonies? |
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| legalquestions wrote: |
| In suits, but wearing white gloves at ribbon cuttings, grand openings, awards ceremonies, etc.; you've seen it, right? What does it signify? What is the origin? Anyone know? |
Wearing white gloves isn't something unique to Koreans. Usually, they're worn during a white tie event which is considered formal dress.
A black tie event (tuxedo) is considered semi-formal but you're not supposed to wear white gloves with a dinner jacket.
These days, there aren't many people who abide by traditional dress codes anywhere in the World. |
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EzeWong
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:55 am Post subject: |
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The Koreans tell me it started in the 1980's.
The entire trend used to encompass moonwalking, crotch grabbing, and "ANNIE ARE YOU OK? WOULD YOU TELL US IF YOU'RE OK?". But the Koreans only embraced the gloves and also left out skin bleaching and red leather jackets for reasons unknowest to most.
Many theorize that this reasons is because moonwalking represents anti-confucian ideas as walking backwards is an insult to the ancestors and red leather jackets are only supposed to be worn by Korean emperors.
Hopefully this clears up any confusion you have. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| Kids wear them in their dog and pony shows for parents, too. It's pretty gay. |
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bassexpander
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: |
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The tradition started several hundred years ago when King Sejong, perhaps Korea's most famous King, married one of his daughters off to the son of a high-class yangban. The daughter refused the arranged marriage -- an affront to her father, the king. She was forced to appear for the marriage, but the king, who was so concerned about his daughter's purity, forbade any man's naked hand to touch her.
The story is that the king was also fearful of a plague in the area at the time, so he instructed that the guards holding her were to wear white gloves as a show of cleanliness. The originals were fashioned from silk. They were still around up until the early 20th century, and on display in a museum before Japan took control. They haven't been seen since. Rumors are that the gloves are buried somewhere on Dokdo, which is why Korea is so adamant about keeping control of it.
Since that time, they have become a symbol of purity, good luck, and the ever-enduring Korean belief of female servitude/submission at the hands of the male. |
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endo
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Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| While we're on the subject of odd Korean fashion, why do I often see Korean politicians or other important people wearing sashes like beauty queens do? |
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jackson7
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| endo wrote: |
| While we're on the subject of odd Korean fashion, why do I often see Korean politicians or other important people wearing sashes like beauty queens do? |
For the same reason that they black out all the windows in buildings with signage and advertising. Why miss out on a chance to spread the good word? I expect "golden palace casino" to be plastered all over 2MB's squinty little face in the near future, helping to bring dollars to Korea and extinguish the currency crisis. |
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Yesterday
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
Since that time, they have become a symbol of purity, good luck, and the ever-enduring Korean belief of female servitude/submission at the hands of the male. |
Ahaha - that explains why police officers wear white gloves - because they are so pure.... |
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sojourner1
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I've seen many bus drivers wear em' too. |
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DJTwoTone
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Location: Yangsan - I'm not sure where it is either
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
They were still around up until the early 20th century, and on display in a museum before Japan took control. They haven't been seen since. Rumors are that the gloves are buried somewhere on Dokdo, which is why Korea is so adamant about keeping control of it. |
Your sources are a little off. The Korean public is lead to believe that the gloves are buried on Dokdo. The truth is, no one knows what actually happened to them. I did read in one source, years ago, that the main reason for the Japanese occupation was to capture the gloves. It seems they truly did have some sort of magical powers. That source also said that one of the gloves was given to Hitler as a gift. Little is know besides that.
Has anyone stumbled on any other information? This is a story that I've been interested in for years. |
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legalquestions
Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| so nobody really knows the answer to my question? |
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bassexpander
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| DJTwoTone wrote: |
| bassexpander wrote: |
They were still around up until the early 20th century, and on display in a museum before Japan took control. They haven't been seen since. Rumors are that the gloves are buried somewhere on Dokdo, which is why Korea is so adamant about keeping control of it. |
Your sources are a little off. The Korean public is lead to believe that the gloves are buried on Dokdo. The truth is, no one knows what actually happened to them. I did read in one source, years ago, that the main reason for the Japanese occupation was to capture the gloves. It seems they truly did have some sort of magical powers. That source also said that one of the gloves was given to Hitler as a gift. Little is know besides that.
Has anyone stumbled on any other information? This is a story that I've been interested in for years. |
The nazis went looking for them on Dokdo, but didn't find them. Incidentally, this story is what led to Steven Spielberg's idea of having the opening place of the Ark of the Covenant on an Island in Raiders of the Lost Ark. |
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DJTwoTone
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
They were still around up until the early 20th century, and on display in a museum before Japan took control. They haven't been seen since. Rumors are that the gloves are buried somewhere on Dokdo, which is why Korea is so adamant about keeping control of it. |
Your sources are a little off. The Korean public is lead to believe that the gloves are buried on Dokdo. The truth is, no one knows what actually happened to them. I did read in one source, years ago, that the main reason for the Japanese occupation was to capture the gloves. It seems they truly did have some sort of magical powers. That source also said that one of the gloves was given to Hitler as a gift. Little is know besides that.
Has anyone stumbled on any other information? This is a story that I've been interested in for years. |
The nazis went looking for them on Dokdo, but didn't find them. Incidentally, this story is what led to Steven Spielberg's idea of having the opening place of the Ark of the Covenant on an Island in Raiders of the Lost Ark. |
See, I had also heard that. But... There also speculation that the Japanese were using child labor to search for the gloves on Dokdo, which used to be one island and much much bigger. And that was Spielberg's inspiration for part of Temple of Doom. The various maps, journals, and newspaper articles on the topic all conflict. Who knows what to believe...
All I know is Nazis, Japanese and Spielberg are all involved somehow... |
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victorology
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| legalquestions wrote: |
| so nobody really knows the answer to my question? |
I tried answering it earlier in the thread.
In the West, white gloves are worn for the most formal occasions (white tie). The reason we don't see it often back home is there are rarely any white tie events. Even black tie (tuxedo) events are rare these days.
I think Koreans wear white gloves for formal occasions like weddings because they see it as being part of formal wear. |
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EzeWong
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| DJTwoTone wrote: |
| bassexpander wrote: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
They were still around up until the early 20th century, and on display in a museum before Japan took control. They haven't been seen since. Rumors are that the gloves are buried somewhere on Dokdo, which is why Korea is so adamant about keeping control of it. |
Your sources are a little off. The Korean public is lead to believe that the gloves are buried on Dokdo. The truth is, no one knows what actually happened to them. I did read in one source, years ago, that the main reason for the Japanese occupation was to capture the gloves. It seems they truly did have some sort of magical powers. That source also said that one of the gloves was given to Hitler as a gift. Little is know besides that.
Has anyone stumbled on any other information? This is a story that I've been interested in for years. |
The nazis went looking for them on Dokdo, but didn't find them. Incidentally, this story is what led to Steven Spielberg's idea of having the opening place of the Ark of the Covenant on an Island in Raiders of the Lost Ark. |
See, I had also heard that. But... There also speculation that the Japanese were using child labor to search for the gloves on Dokdo, which used to be one island and much much bigger. And that was Spielberg's inspiration for part of Temple of Doom. The various maps, journals, and newspaper articles on the topic all conflict. Who knows what to believe...
All I know is Nazis, Japanese and Spielberg are all involved somehow... |
In all seriousness taking my Michael Jackson reference aside,
Yes I've heard this story. The rumor goes (and obviously much to be taken a rumor) ,it's well known Hitler was much into the occult and Japanese presented it to him as an act of diplomancy when they found it on the Dokdo Island. If I remember correctly, his "Order of Teutons" (anti-semites interested in arcane knowledge) purused the glove ferverntly in belief that it contained roots of purity that could be channeled or something like that. They believed that it could be used for Eugenics. I'm guessing the gloves purity would be passed off to the offspring?
However, there was belief after much testing that they needed the other glove to work. Obviously, this tale is way too ridiculous that most disregard it. I heard this from my co-teacher, who we both jokingly say is the stupidest tale ever. To make it more ridiculous some versions say that the illumanti is involved as now they have possesion of the glove.
However, there are some Koreans still looking for the other glove on the Island. You don't hear about it on the news because it's just so out there, but if you go around asking the right (aka crazy) people they will recant this story. |
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