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ceadem



Joined: 11 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:53 am    Post subject: Life in Ulsan Reply with quote

...What is it like?

This'll be my first time in Korea (and teaching) so I have no clue as to what to expect, nor do I know anyone there. This seems like a strange question to ask but what will my life be like there for the first couple of months?, how will I meet people?, are there art classes?, rock clubs?, scenery?, many G.I. Joes?
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stacyrb



Joined: 10 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be interested in this as well as we are going to Ulsan the 2nd week of November.

Stacy
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Temporary



Joined: 13 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never lived there myself but I've been there quite a few times. Its a smaller city by Korean standards, industrial, many shipyards and refineries. I've never heard of a big expat community but I am sure there is one. Upside is that its quite close to Busan and Haeundae beach area. The poster for tourist attraction is a giant Chemical plant in Ulsan.
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Imrahil



Joined: 04 Feb 2008
Location: On the other side of the world.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have lived there for many years, it is not a bad city has many (not lots) of western restaurants now. Shopping is fairly good, if you are not an extra large person.(not trying to be rude to anyone) The most important thing is going to be living in the main city, since the public transportation system in Ulsan sucks. The buses are not very efficent unless you live in the main city and taxi's can be expensive. There is no subway in Ulsan. If you know where in the city you would be living I could probably give you more information.
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Cohiba



Joined: 01 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEVER live anywhere except Seoul (or close to it)

Remember "Cohiba's Rule" (Now better than ever!):

Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell cuban cigars, European pies, cold
cuts or rye breads. Just to name a few things.

The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.

If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.

This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains.

I, unfortunately, live near Seoul where the FFF factor
is almost in the negative range. I know!
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DJTwoTone



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: Yangsan - I'm not sure where it is either

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cohiba's rule is complete shit... I'm sure you are a perfectly nice person, but your rule is stupid. I have never and will never live in Seoul... It's not a place I enjoy spending time in. It's not for everyone... In fact, It isn't for a lot of people.

That being said, Ulsan... It isn't a bad place, but it isn't great either... Where ever you live you will have positives and negatives... Choose wisely.
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losing_touch



Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Ulsan. I have been here for a couple of months now. I find it to be a nice little city with plenty to do. Busan is close, but I admit that I haven't had the time to make my way there yet. My apartment is 10 minutes from the beach by foot and 2 minutes to the mountains. There are plenty of bars and restaurants around. Everything here is low-key and relaxed.

As for making friends, it is dead easy. I was plugged into a group of English teachers on arrival. There are loads of teachers on Facebook. If teachers aren't your cup of tea and you want to diversify the types of friends you have, there are loads of HHI people living and working here from every corner of the world. We get together often. This Saturday is Scottish dancing for example.....

Overall, Ulsan is a swell place.
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Temporary



Joined: 13 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cohiba wrote:
NEVER live anywhere except Seoul (or close to it)

Remember "Cohiba's Rule" (Now better than ever!):

Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell cuban cigars, European pies, cold
cuts or rye breads. Just to name a few things.

The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.

If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.

This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains.

I, unfortunately, live near Seoul where the FFF factor
is almost in the negative range. I know!


Your so full of shit your coming apart at the seems. Whats the FFF factor. Getting idiotically drunk every weekend?
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afsjesse



Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an interesting rule/theory. But I think it has to be reajusted for the cities of of Busan and Daegu. I've lived in Busan and its amazing, even tops Seoul in my opinion. Daegu is also pretty good.

So if we take the KTX route, say the FFF becomes negative past Daejeon and than reappears near Gumi! Just a thought.
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Cohiba



Joined: 01 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

afsjesse wrote:
It's an interesting rule/theory. But I think it has to be reajusted for the cities of of Busan and Daegu. I've lived in Busan and its amazing, even tops Seoul in my opinion. Daegu is also pretty good.

So if we take the KTX route, say the FFF becomes negative past Daejeon and than reappears near Gumi! Just a thought.


Hmmm, you could be right. My rule is pretty general and is intended
to guide younger and less experienced sojourners. In my experience,
if they can hang put in cool places with other foreigners and eat and
drink what they are used to, then they are less likely to to go berserk
and get force 10 culture shock. If they are in a small town or city, then
they are out of luck, or, they will be spending hours and hours and
hours on a train or bus to get to civilization. Of course some people
totally don't miss multitudes of foreigners to talk to or global cuisine
or English book shops etc., etc. More power to them. I'm not one
of them. Also I have talked to many foreigners about "Small Town ROK",
and they tell me locals are totally xenophobic, aggressive towards
foreigners, unaccepting of other cultures. No thanks. And I sure
wouldn't wish it on a newb.

I have been living in Korea for over 12 years and it is such a breath of
fresh air to go to Itaewon for an Austrian lunch followed up with pies at
Tartine and then maybe pints of ale at Wolfhound. I couldn't live without
it. (maybe I could, but I wouldn't want to)

PS: Where is Gumi?
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm gonna have to second cohiba's rule....if some foreigner said he wanted to move to the usa would you say

"naw....screw new york, chicago, and Miami.....move to a suburb and get a job there or a tiny city...thats where the real fun is at!"

Unless your really big on small town life, go to a big city like seoul, daegu, or busan.

I already know one guy who's bored out of his mind in his newly placed GEPIK position....

Let's face it,those 3 cities have everything rural korea can't offer you in spades.... If I wanna see rural korea, I can take a $10 bus ride and get my fill of hicksville.

Also, the the seoul citizens are more sophisticated.....soon as I left seoul,then I started getting those "Migook Saram" and random people staring thing people always complain about.

I wonder what people in nowheresville korea do for fun......play xox 360 while drinking soju every night? Getting drunk in the same 2-3 hang outs with the same group of foreigners every weekend? Playing against kids in the PC bang?
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aimeecate



Joined: 03 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with some of the other posters. Ulsan is not a bad city, but not great compared to say Busan or Seoul. I lived there for a year last year.

There is a decent downtown shopping area, 3 movie theaters and a pretty good variety of food. You can get Indian, Italian, Chinese and even Vietnamese. There are also 2 or 3 foreigner bars where you could meet people. My favorite bar was Tombstones which is near the Ulsan University area.

You can also find foreign restaurants like Bennigans and Outback Steak House near the Lotte Department Store. There are 2 Starbucks locations as well.

I found the bus system was pretty good in the main city, I had to commute about half an hour to my school when I first moved there and it wasn't too bad.

Sometimes I felt like I was in a small town because children would shout "foreigner" or point and adults sometimes stared at me. However, I also lived in Gumi (which is about 40-60 minutes from Daegu). That felt much smaller and industrial. The staring and shouting was worse there.

Ulsan is a pretty good city but if you ever get tired of it you are only about an hour and a half bus ride from Busan and a little more to Daegu. You could take a train to Seoul in about 4 hours or so. We didn't do that too much, there was enough in Ulsan to keep us occupied most of the time.
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Saram



Joined: 11 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aimeecate wrote:
There is a decent downtown shopping area, 3 movie theaters and a pretty good variety of food. You can get Indian, Italian, Chinese and even Vietnamese. There are also 2 or 3 foreigner bars where you could meet people. My favorite bar was Tombstones which is near the Ulsan University area.


Seems like every city in Korea has a foreign hangout called Tombstones.
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