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The Thread About The Chosun Article Regarding Daves
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: The Thread About The Chosun Article Regarding Daves Reply with quote

SHANE02 wrote:
Where did it go? I was reading it and I clicked page 2, and the thing is gone.

Was it that bad?

Anyway, it sounds like the media here is on another "Evil forigner" binge.

http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/10/15/english-teacher-sites-demean-korean-women-chosun-ilbo/


I said it in the last thread; I'll say it again.

Shitty article from a shitty paper.

Is it just me or is it that whenever I see a "dirty foreigner" article, it's coming from the Chosun Ilbo?
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crosbystillsstash



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So one girl is quoted, and the newspaper investigates a public forum and reports its findings.

How about some real news you fucking clowns.
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked this in in the deleted thread: Is this an article or is it an editorial? It subscribes to the latter posing as the former.

How is one tactless idiot, possibly misquoted, foreigner evidence for our "prejudices towards Korea and Korean women in particular" being a serious issue in Korea?
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A nation of weenies. Why would a newspaper be writing articles about opinions posted on message boards without being able to verify whether or not those actually making the statements are actually teachers?
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boring, overstated, racially motivated article.

Although the amount of racism on this site does disgust me. When I want less racist debates, more open-minded posters, and fewer Internet-tough-guys, I go to www.skinheads.net. Much more rational people on there.
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ytuque



Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Location: I drink therefore I am!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What�s more � are you sitting down for this? � there are even posts demeaning Korean culture, for example, comparing kimchi to food waste.



My god, someone made disparaging remarks about kimchi!
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diver



Joined: 16 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What�s more � are you sitting down for this? � there are even posts demeaning Korean culture, for example, comparing kimchi to food waste.


I can't see the food waste lobby being too pleased about that.
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Teelo



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
I go to www.skinheads.net. Much more rational people on there.
Wow, what a horrible site; I'd rather go troll 4chan or somethingawful.com or go have a lobotomy...
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to sound like the gal M-su but I'm seeing a Korean gal tonight-but we won't be eating kimchi, because kimchi is fit for the dumbass lemmings and farm animals.

It's true.


It's true.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what this means? More whining about wylies99 and more reposting of the wisdom of wylies99 on Korean websites, AFTER it's been run through the worst online translators in the universe. They do it to many of us. Rolling Eyes

Some Korean netizen (mis-) translated something wylies99 posted about Korean weddings (Basically-Give 30,000 won, take a few pics, and enjoy the buffet) and posted it on some Korean webpage. It received over 600 posts from Koreans. Shocked

Remember, Korean netizens think Steve Schertzer, Duncan Hunter, and David Theissen are geniuses. Laughing
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
Boring, overstated, racially motivated article.

Although the amount of racism on this site does disgust me. When I want less racist debates, more open-minded posters, and fewer Internet-tough-guys, I go to www.skinheads.net. Much more rational people on there.


Ok bye....
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teelo wrote:
RACETRAITOR wrote:
I go to www.skinheads.net. Much more rational people on there.
Wow, what a horrible site; I'd rather go troll 4chan or somethingawful.com or go have a lobotomy...


What's wrong with that one? At least there they don't tolerate racism.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Re: The Thread About The Chosun Article Regarding Daves Reply with quote

SHANE02 wrote:
Where did it go? I was reading it and I clicked page 2, and the thing is gone.

Was it that bad?

Anyway, it sounds like the media here is on another "Evil forigner" binge.

http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/10/15/english-teacher-sites-demean-korean-women-chosun-ilbo/


You mean this one:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=136125&highlight=chosun
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would happen? I imagine that English teachers would soon find another venue to congregate online in.

All large websites have an 'aura' about them and frankly Dave's aura is not the best: He runs this site for a profit, not because he cares about the ESL community (though perhaps one time long ago that was not the case) His mod's can be less-than-objective, and the final litmus test on what we are permitted to talk about is clearly how it effects Dave's bottom line.

I use the site not because I have any more affinity for Dave than he has for me, but because there is a reasonable amount of traffic representing a reasonably diverse cross-section of ESL instructors and professors in Korea. No other reason.

One thing I will tell you, though, is that the Korean discussion forum is not going anywhere. There is no danger of this forum being banned by the Korean government. They recognize that the site is integral for filling the countries legitimate needs for English instructors. I am sure that there is a clear understanding between our dear leader whose portrait graces every page and the appropriate Korean authorities.

Dave's retirement fund is safe Wink



bassexpander wrote:
I'm sure the mods have been instructed to pull all such threads. This one is probably next. You have to realize that Dave's can be put on a ban list by Korean authorities rather easily. If that happens (and there is always a real possibility that such a thing could in this country) then Dave will lose a substantial amount of money. Imagine what would happen to this forum and the job board if Dave's were to be banned?
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
You know what this means? More whining about wylies99 and more reposting of the wisdom of wylies99 on Korean websites, AFTER it's been run through the worst online translators in the universe. They do it to many of us. Rolling Eyes

Some Korean netizen (mis-) translated something wylies99 posted about Korean weddings (Basically-Give 30,000 won, take a few pics, and enjoy the buffet) and posted it on some Korean webpage. It received over 600 posts from Koreans. Shocked

Remember, Korean netizens think Steve Schertzer, Duncan Hunter, and David Theissen are geniuses. Laughing




Ok, here is one thing they did about our stewardess thread
http://ruliweb.empas.com/mypi/mypi.htm?id=ashio&num=9663
( originally from here: http://gesomoon.gameshot.net/zboard/zboard.php?id=web_soci&no=1635 )
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bassexpander
대한항공에서 우리 근처에서 몇명의 스튜어디스가 앉아 있었어.
그 사람들은 집으로 가는데는 공짜라더라?
그중 한명은 내 아내랑 같이 집에 가는 길이었는데도
자꾸 나한테 껄떡댔었어.
너무나 노골적이었고,
내 아내는 기분이 상당히 나빠 보였어.
그녀는 계속 내게 눈짓을 했고,
한때 여승무원을 붙잡기도 했지.
보기 좋은 광경은 아니었어.


And here is what I originally said:

bassexpander
There were a few stewardesses flying together in the seats next to us on Korean Air -- they were taking advantage of a free flight home. One kept flirting with me on the way to my wife's home for Solal. It was blatantly obvious, and my wife wasn't very happy about it. She kept giving me eyes, and my wife caught her once. Not a good scene.




Am I reading this incorrectly, or did he mistranslate what I said to spice it up and make me look like I cheated on my wife?
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