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Foreign Teacher commits suicide
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matko



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: in a world of hurt!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plastic B wrote:
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Tiberious
Good luck in your language studies at Beom Seok's Women's University, pal. Don't let those really big and enormous doors hit your hips on the way out.

Pyongshin Sangja
I am with Tiberious on this one. Beautiful AND tall. Wow. cpa, we miss you. This post is total konglish. Full of errors common to Koreans and other esl students, sounds they can't distinguish. If the person that wrote this is a native speaker, I will eat my cat. That's not really the point, but this seems like a cruel joke by some Korean.

Sorry Matko I should have added sexist to racist.


I guess some people find it diffucult to take the high road.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A poster in this thread described suicide as a selfish, cowardly act. That would be true if life were like a battleground and a member of the 'army of good' fighting for the freedom of others suddenly stepped aside, forgot what he was there for, and took the liberty of offing himself. But a suicide thinks of themself as on their own, useless, and a burden. The anger at 'life' for contributing to their alienation they recognize as unreasonable. With no-one to help them, that anger is turned towards themselves. Suicide is the result of a deep, immobilizing depression. I'm no psychologist but to think of suicide as selfish and cowardly likely means that the person judging here would look down on 'misfits' and 'lurkers' as lowlifes and shirkers. The thing that separates humans from animals, the 'way of the fishes' where the powerful consume the weak, is understanding and compassion. Sure, depressed and angry people aren't 'fun to be around' and tend to push people away. But suicides as selfish cowards?
My condolences to the survivors in their grief.
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Mosley



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 6:42 am    Post subject: Tiberious & rapier.... Reply with quote

Tiberious: I never dreamed I would've said this a week or so ago but you showed some class with your apology-kudos for your humble pie.

rapier: you startled me on p.1 w/a reference to rumours about suicide in Mody Ba's death. I'd like to state here that I was relatively close to the guy and I have not heard of any SUBSTANTIATED claim that his death was due to his own hand; nor did I have any first hand evidence from knowing him that this was the imminent case. If you think that those "rumours" have any real basis in fact from credible sources(I severely doubt so), please PM me. Mosley
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diver



Joined: 16 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Urban Myth,

There is not much wrong with my reading skill. One does not have to view MBC, or its website, to know that it carried the story. Perhaps indiglo was told by someone else that the story was carried there.

"I found out tonight that the story was on the MBC news". There are, I would think, more ways than one to find something out.

Therefore, I regret to inform you that I will not be accompanying you to reading class. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.
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RedRob



Joined: 07 Jul 2003
Location: Narnia

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TECO wrote:
Man, that sucks.

Wasn't there a thread started here last month or so by a teacher who was thinking of killing himself?

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.


Just stared reading this thread, bit drunk and bleu , due to Fk all newsyaers, but I hope like hell it wasnit the same bloke. that would be terrible........thet wws one guy thet sounded erealyy supportive of him thoi' a vet of Vietnam i think.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just stared reading this thread, bit drunk and bleu , due to Fk all newsyaers, but I hope like hell it wasnit the same bloke. that would be terrible........thet wws one guy thet sounded erealyy supportive of him thoi' a vet of Vietnam i think.

Ha, aha!! I had a FK all newyears as well, RR !
Me, too. I hope it wasn't the same guy.
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cisco kid



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: Outlaws had us pinned down at the fort

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope you people are doing well this holiday.

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Deconstructor



Joined: 30 Dec 2003
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, the man is dead or not dead. We're trying to understand what happens when someone deliberately kicks the bucket. There is no need to become close analyzers of text.

Whether the story is true or false really doesn't matter since there is no such thing as a true story!.

All is language, my friends, as we are all born into, and die in, it.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was certainly a bizarre thread to read, especially on New Year's Day.

It brought to mind a special problem I think all of us have, and it's kind of morbid. We have a restricted social circle made up of the couple of other foreigners we work with and the ones we met in a bar somewhere. Many of us work as the only foreigner in our school. We may know a few other teachers from other cities.

From time to time I wonder how my friends from other parts of the city or from other cities would find out what happened to me if I were killed by a runaway taxi.

I suggest that posters here write to the Korea Herald and ask them to begin a obit column.
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Cthulhu



Joined: 02 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We live as we dream--alone.

--Joseph Conrad
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maxxx_power wrote:
Am I the only one here that thinks suicide is a selfish and petty act? It's truly the cowardly way out and tragic for those who loved the "victim".

Amazingly it's quite common and among one of the leading causes of death (in the top five) in the United States for people aged 15-44.


Yeah, its selfish, but obviously its a causal event-dealing with something that was perceived as something impossible to cope with.

Get terminal cancer and get back to how selfish you think it is.

Now, Rachel Corrie getting into that game of chicken with the bulldozer-she knew she was making the world a better place!


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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matko wrote:
Plastic B wrote:
Onya Son. I too thought the suicide story sounded too true and too painfully real to be the invention of some distorted mind.

To Tiberious (erm, shouldn't that be Tiberius...never mind) you are a tosser of the lowest order. The above comment also applies to the other clowns who doubted the veracity of the original poster. Oh, and, GROW UP.


How nice of you to use this opportunity to hurl insults.

Pathetic.


I usually agree with you but not on this one.

Tiberious, good job posturing on the speculation of a suicide.
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Apple Scruff



Joined: 29 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it was necessary to announce on this forum that a friend had committed suicide. What's done is done and all this served to do was motivate a bunch of people to search out the story and learn the poor man's name and the personal details behind his life problems. It's bad enough that these personal issues pushed him to suicide - is it really necessary that everybody and their dog find out about them, too?
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Mankind



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've also wondered how many ESL teachers in Korea end up killing themselves.


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With no-one to help them, that anger is turned towards themselves. Suicide is the result of a deep, immobilizing depression. I'm no psychologist but to think of suicide as selfish and cowardly


It 's cowardly. And to try to justify as not being os sad. I got a $1,000 solution to all the depressed people. FLY HOME! FLY TO THAILAND AND *beep* AROUND TILL YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE KILLING YOURSELF! It's gutless pure and simple, a cowards way out. Teens it's different, they hav't gown-up yet, but adults it's just a waste. No offence to those in morning but good ridence. If you're too scared to live your life it was wasted on you and you never deverved it.

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Miles



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Location: In limbo

PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Mankind"]
Quote:
No offence to those in morning but good ridence.

HAND Smile


How could you possibly think that those in mourning will not be offended by this statement?
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