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paulandamy



Joined: 06 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:25 am    Post subject: HPV vaccine Reply with quote

Does anyone know where you can get this and approximately how much the 3 dosages of it would cost? Does insurance cover part of the cost?
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KumaraKitty



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most Women's hospitals or Women's doctors in Korea offer it.
Cost is 200,000won per shot, administered 3 times. I think. I will double check the price.
Insurance does not cover it.
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rowdie3



Joined: 22 Sep 2003
Location: Itaewon, Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's available at Dr. Sung's clinic in Hanam. It's 200,000 per shot, so 600,000W total. The phone number is 02-790-0802. This is an Oby/Gyn clinic especially for foreigners. Everyone on staff speaks Enlish.
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get vaccines they are very bad for your health. Good for the drug companies wallets.

There is a big controversy about this vaccine and it will be years before the true effects are known.

If you want to live as a test subject go for it.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:
Don't get vaccines they are very bad for your health. Good for the drug companies wallets.

There is a big controversy about this vaccine and it will be years before the true effects are known.

If you want to live as a test subject go for it.


Vaccines are one of the safest and most successful health measures ever instituted. If you have peer reviewed medical evidence vaccines are bad for your health (say more risky than getting cervical cancer or small pox) you should table it.

And I don't mean random blogs or web pages by CAM advocates. I mean actual science studies.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/basic/history.htm
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Bread



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously, it doesn't even use a real virus. A woman would have to be crazy not to get this vaccine (assuming she can afford it and such).
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
D.D. wrote:
Don't get vaccines they are very bad for your health. Good for the drug companies wallets.

There is a big controversy about this vaccine and it will be years before the true effects are known.

If you want to live as a test subject go for it.


Vaccines are one of the safest and most successful health measures ever instituted. If you have peer reviewed medical evidence vaccines are bad for your health (say more risky than getting cervical cancer or small pox) you should table it.

And I don't mean random blogs or web pages by CAM advocates. I mean actual science

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/basic/history.htm


Ya you can trust the fake research done by the guys who sell the drugs. Disease is not a lack of drugs.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not recommended for women over 26, at least not yet. Still, I'd rather risk the side effects of the vaccine than face chemo any day.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:
Ya you can trust the fake research done by the guys who sell the drugs. Disease is not a lack of drugs.


So, every medical establishment in every nation on earth is in the thrall of pharma? You do realize a lot of medical research is done by academia, far from the reach of pharma companies and academic researchers make their career determining the non efficacy of treatment modalities. You might not be aware but medical doctors change their practise all the time based on this data published in the scientific literature.

By your logic we should have an HIV vaccine by now. But very very odd several have failed trials. Yeah yeah, we can keep 'em on AZT. Well, why not just claim an efficacious vaccine that is very expensive and requires frequent boosters? People will pay $200K for a 3 minute suborbital ride into space, how much will they pay to have unprotected sex with thai prostitutes again?

Polio, which we have an effective vaccine for now, used to fill entire wings of hospitals. It was a HUGE money maker for the medical establishment. Odd they came out with that polio vaccine. No?

Here's another vaccine failure:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25722244/

Wow, big pharma really was asleep at the switch there. I'm not aware that Alzheimer's is highly profitable to drug companies.

So other than hand waving at some vast conspiracy, what *evidence* do you have to support your claim? None? Please come back with evidence, not just a simple restatement of the claim.


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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:
It's not recommended for women over 26, at least not yet. Still, I'd rather risk the side effects of the vaccine than face chemo any day.


Well said. As noted above, I'd rather risk the side effects of a polio vaccine than be a wheel chair or iron lung for my life.
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
D.D. wrote:
Ya you can trust the fake research done by the guys who sell the drugs. Disease is not a lack of drugs.


So, every medical establishment in every nation on earth is in the thrall of pharma? You do realize a lot of medical research is done by academia, far from the reach of pharma companies and academic researchers make their career determining the non efficacy of treatment modalities. You might not be aware but medical doctors change their practise all the time based on this data published in the scientific literature.

By your logic we should have an HIV vaccine by now. But very very odd several have failed trials. Yeah yeah, we can keep 'em on AZT. Well, why not just claim an efficacious vaccine that is very expensive and requires frequent boosters? People will pay $200K for a 3 minute suborbital ride into space, how much will they pay to have unprotected sex with thai prostitutes again?

Polio, which we have an effective vaccine for now, used to fill entire wings of hospitals. It was a HUGE money maker for the medical establishment. Odd they came out with that polio vaccine. No?

Here's another vaccine failure:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25722244/

Wow, big pharma really was asleep at the switch there. I'm not aware that Alzheimer's is highly profitable to drug companies.

So other than hand waving at some vast conspiracy, what *evidence* do you have to support your claim? None? Please come back with evidence, not just a simple restatement of the claim.


Cane toads were brought into Australia to fix a problem with crops. Now they are killing off many other species.

It's not a question of research, it is a question of philosphy. How much have you studied about medical science?

Man does not understand enough and most of his interventions create more problems in the long run.

Check out the amount of deaths from medication in the western world published in Medical journals.

We are not as smart as the thing that creates us. Our arrogance of this fact creates many problems. Western medicine should only be used as a last resort.

There are very few true researchers out there. I have a friend who is a top scietific researcher. Her name is Candice Pert and I think you should read some of her books before giving people medical advice.

Explain the other side of the argument and then I will know that you have looked at this from many sides. I get they feeling you see research as being more than it actually is and that you have not looked very deeply at the subject.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:
Cane toads were brought into Australia to fix a problem with crops. Now they are killing off many other species.

It's not a question of research, it is a question of philosphy. How much have you studied about medical science?

Man does not understand enough and most of his interventions create more problems in the long run.


So what problems do vaccines cause?

Quote:
Check out the amount of deaths from medication in the western world published in Medical journals.


Check out how many more people died before the introduction of vaccines.

Quote:
Explain the other side of the argument and then I will know that you have looked at this from many sides. I get they feeling you see research as being more than it actually is and that you have not looked very deeply at the subject.


Explain what exactly?

I'll ask you for a third time to support your claims with scientific research. You're, again, merely restating your claims.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*bump*

Still waiting for your evidence to back your mere assertions.
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519forlife



Joined: 26 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You haven't even looked into it yourself have you, you just blindly accept that an injection is good for you, and why not those people are there to help you right? Wrong, the FDA is a joke bought and paid for by big Pharma, take there drugs if ya want. You deserve what ya get for not investigateing the matter yourself.
By the way Google "factor 8" see the kind of people run the drug companies I dare ya!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/feb/02/20070202-100152-9747r/
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

519forlife wrote:
You haven't even looked into it yourself have you, you just blindly accept that an injection is good for you, and why not those people are there to help you right? Wrong, the FDA is a joke bought and paid for by big Pharma, take there drugs if ya want. You deserve what ya get for not investigateing the matter yourself.
By the way Google "factor 8" see the kind of people run the drug companies I dare ya!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/feb/02/20070202-100152-9747r/


Good it is nice to see another person who can think. That other idiot keeps talking about research. Most research is funded by the people who want to sell the drugs. Or the university recieves funding from them. There are so many books documenting the adverse effects of the jab.
My friend's son died from his shots and one of my patients kids walking gait was screwed up.
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