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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: Re: Staying with the same School Reply with quote

beckykorea wrote:
I have been at my current school for two years now. I re-signed in December just before the new E-2 visa laws. I was thinking of staying for another year, but I am really confused. I am American. Do I need to go back to America and get fingerprinted for my criminal background check? Or can I do it on-line? What else will I have to do to stay in Korea? I would appreciate it if someone could tell me what is going on with the E-2 visa regulations now.
The local police department in my Georgia hometown is telling my Dad I have to be thre in person.... Shocked
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Ut videam



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

princess wrote:
Well, my visa ends in December, so today, my Dad went to the local police department in my GEORGIA hometown to see what I need to do to get my CBC, and they told him I MUST be IN PERSON to get one. This doesn't sound right. Maybe the small town rednecks don't know what they are talking about. That is going to suck if I have to go all the way back to Georgia just to apply for a CBC.

The local check is not your only option.

If you read the post you quoted, you'll see that the poster got her fingerprints taken and sent them in for her Georgia state CBC while staying in Korea.

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How do I obtain a Georgia criminal history record check from GCIC for employment, licensing, or visa (travel) purposes?

[...]Individuals requiring fingerprint checks on themselves for employment, licensing or visa purposes, must also submit fingerprint cards and a $15.00 fee.

http://gbi.georgia.gov/00/channel_modifieddate/0,2096,67862954_67866875,00.html

It's also possible to get your fingerprints taken and send them in for an FBI (federal) CBC while staying in Korea: http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/fprequest.htm

Bottom line: you do NOT have to go all the way home just to apply for a CBC.
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Norith



Joined: 02 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

princess, in Georgia anyone can get a criminal check on anyone else. To get the fingerprint check, the fingerprints have to be taken at a local cop shop, but anyone can walk into a police department and get a check on someone else, and the check only shows felony's that were at some point under GA jurisdiction. Not sure if Korea will okay that...if not, you can have your dad fax/e-mail you the consent form, and get it notarized at the embassy, then send it back and your dad will be able to get the full background check.

I just got my check done, so I did all the requisite research pretty recently.

http://gbi.georgia.gov/00/channel_modifieddate/0,2096,67862954_67866875,00.html

Under Can I obtain a Georgia criminal history record of another person?, it makes it pretty clear that anyone can go into a local police station and get a felony conviction report on anyone else, and that with written consent, a full background check will be given.
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SaveTheWhales



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If an E2 visa holder marries an F4 holder, does this entitle them to the F2 visa?
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gteacher



Joined: 24 May 2007
Location: Ghost in the machine

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SaveTheWhales wrote:
If an E2 visa holder marries an F4 holder, does this entitle them to the F2 visa?


Nope
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midnightdrive



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: ARC Reply with quote

I live in northern Gyeonggido. I have an E-2 work visa but I don't yet have an Alien Registration Card (ARC). It's my understanding I have to get a physical, a drug test, and an STD test done in order to obtain an ARC. Where can I go to have this done, i.e., a specific hospital or physician's name and location? Also, is there any specific paperwork that I need give to the doctor to fill out? If so, then what's it called and where can I get it, e.g., on the Korean Immigration's website -- can you provide a link to the page with the form -- or at Uijeongbu Immigration? Thanks in advance.
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Kwangjuchicken



Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: ARC Reply with quote

midnightdrive wrote:
I live in northern Gyeonggido. I have an E-2 work visa but I don't yet have an Alien Registration Card (ARC). It's my understanding I have to get a physical, a drug test, and an STD test done in order to obtain an ARC. Where can I go to have this done, i.e., a specific hospital or physician's name and location? Also, is there any specific paperwork that I need give to the doctor to fill out? If so, then what's it called and where can I get it, e.g., on the Korean Immigration's website -- can you provide a link to the page with the form -- or at Uijeongbu Immigration? Thanks in advance.


It is your school's job to arrange all of this for you. If they are not doing this for you, then your school may have many other serious problems in store for you. And, with Novemeber not so far away. they should have already done all of this and you should ahve your ARC.

Good Luck.

Chicken

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midnightdrive



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: . Reply with quote

I didn't ask for an assessment of my employer. I am well-aware of my situation with my employer and of what they are willing and capable of doing and vice versa. I asked if anyone knows what I need to do with Immigration. Now if there's anyone who can post regarding that, then that would be helpful.
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Kwangjuchicken



Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: . Reply with quote

midnightdrive wrote:
I didn't ask for an assessment of my employer. I am well-aware of my situation with my employer and of what they are willing and capable of doing and vice versa. I asked if anyone knows what I need to do with Immigration. Now if there's anyone who can post regarding that, then that would be helpful.


Well, la dee da da to you. I did answer your question. You can not do these things on your own. IT IS YOUR SCHOOL WHO HAS TO DO THESE THINGS. NOT YOU Razz

But what do I know, I have only spent 20% of my life Crying or Very sad in Korea.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: . Reply with quote

Kwangjuchicken wrote:
midnightdrive wrote:
I didn't ask for an assessment of my employer. I am well-aware of my situation with my employer and of what they are willing and capable of doing and vice versa. I asked if anyone knows what I need to do with Immigration. Now if there's anyone who can post regarding that, then that would be helpful.


Well, la dee da da to you. I did answer your question. You can not do these things on your own. IT IS YOUR SCHOOL WHO HAS TO DO THESE THINGS. NOT YOU Razz

But what do I know, I have only spent 20% of my life Crying or Very sad in Korea.


The one big responsibility you have is to get your paperwork in order.
That is it.

All the rest is up to the hagwon. Of course if you don't get your E2, you will be the one who'll be hanged.
Refuse to work until they get the paper work in order, if not. tell them the labor board number.
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georgewallas



Joined: 26 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: c-4 while abroad Reply with quote

Not to detract from the FACSINATING argument you and chicken are having.

The rules/forum doesn't seem to cover mine and other's reality of living abroad for years.

Does anyone know what the policy is for that re crc's?
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Ut videam



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: Re: ARC Reply with quote

midnightdrive wrote:
I live in northern Gyeonggido. I have an E-2 work visa but I don't yet have an Alien Registration Card (ARC). It's my understanding I have to get a physical, a drug test, and an STD test done in order to obtain an ARC. Where can I go to have this done, i.e., a specific hospital or physician's name and location? Also, is there any specific paperwork that I need give to the doctor to fill out? If so, then what's it called and where can I get it, e.g., on the Korean Immigration's website -- can you provide a link to the page with the form -- or at Uijeongbu Immigration? Thanks in advance.

The physical must be done at a government hospital (국립병원 / 공립병원) or general hospital (종합병원). In northern Gyeonggi-do, some general hospitals are Uijeongbu St. Mary's Hospital (의정부성모병원) and Uri Hospital (우리병원) in Pocheon-si, Songu-ri.

The physical is called a 채용신체검사서 (chae-yong-sin-che-geom-sa-seo). It translates to "recruitment health exam." It's a pretty standard set of exams that are required of new hires by many companies in Korea. IN ADDITION to this battery of tests, you need an HIV/AIDS test and a TBPE test for drug use. These are not part of the standard battery of tests and must be requested specifically.

Here's the specific text (in English and Korean) from the immigration regulations. If you print this out and take it to the hospital with you, you should get what you need:
Quote:
�Original copy of Helth Examination for Employment(include TBPE test and HIV test) issued by A Public Health Center or A General Hospital or A National Hospital or A Public Hospital)

Quote:
- 국공립병원이나 종합병원 등에서 발행한 채용신체검사서원본[마약검사 (TBPE검사) + HIV검사 포함]

There's no form from Immigration to fill out. The hospital will provide a certificate containing the results of the recruitment health exam and additional tests (HIV and TBPE), and that certificate needs to be provided to Immigration when you apply for your ARC.
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Ut videam



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: Re: c-4 while abroad Reply with quote

georgewallas wrote:
Not to detract from the FACSINATING argument you and chicken are having.

The rules/forum doesn't seem to cover mine and other's reality of living abroad for years.

Does anyone know what the policy is for that re crc's?

Still have to get one from your home country (i.e., country of citizenship).
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Ut videam



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: . Reply with quote

Kwangjuchicken wrote:
You can not do these things on your own. IT IS YOUR SCHOOL WHO HAS TO DO THESE THINGS. NOT YOU Razz

But what do I know, I have only spent 20% of my life Crying or Very sad in Korea.[/b]

You may have spent 20% of your life here, but that doesn't make you an expert on immigration regulations. You're quite incorrect in this case.
  1. You can obtain your own alien registration card. All you need from your school is a copy of the school's business registration certificate (사업등록증).
  2. While it's certainly helpful and preferable for the school to take care of alien registration for you, in the end it's the responsibility of the resident foreigner (i.e., YOU, the holder of an E-2 visa) to comply with immigration law by registering for your ARC within 90 days of arrival. Your responsibility, not the school's.
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Kwangjuchicken



Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: . Reply with quote

Ut videam wrote:
Kwangjuchicken wrote:
You can not do these things on your own. IT IS YOUR SCHOOL WHO HAS TO DO THESE THINGS. NOT YOU Razz

But what do I know, I have only spent 20% of my life Crying or Very sad in Korea.[/b]

You may have spent 20% of your life here, but that doesn't make you an expert on immigration regulations. You're quite incorrect in this case.
  1. You can obtain your own alien registration card. All you need from your school is a copy of the school's business registration certificate (사업등록증).
  2. While it's certainly helpful and preferable for the school to take care of alien registration for you, in the end it's the responsibility of the resident foreigner (i.e., YOU, the holder of an E-2 visa) to comply with immigration law by registering for your ARC within 90 days of arrival. Your responsibility, not the school's.


Bold part above:

That was more or less my point of my first post until the op came back so rude. I was concerned that if the op's school was not willing to help, then maybe that is a sign that later there may be more problems. I had no idea that the op would become so (not sure what to say). In any case, my schools have always done 100% for me. They even have the secretaries take the applications and then pick up the cards for all the teachers in order that the teachers do not have to spend maybe hours waiting in line for their number to come up. This way the teachers can do their job, teach, and then school, as it should, takes care of administraitive details.

Very Happy Chicken

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