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I said that only a fool would totally reject an a account by a correspondent for a major news agency (presumed to adhere to at least basic journalistic standards, including careful fact-checking).

From what I could gather (by exhaustively searching the internet for about 30 seconds...) there was a case summary releaseed by the panel of doctors who did the research.

That - and a medical report of a similar case that was published in Gujerat Medical Journal, March, 2001 - can be found here ...
http://www.amazingabilities.com/amaze5a.html

Hey, I'll make it easy ...

"I feel no need for food and water," states Prahladbhai Jani, a seventy-six year old Indian ascetic who lives in a cave near the Ambaji temple in the state of Gujarat. Mr. Jani claims that he has not had food or fluids to drink for the last sixty-five years. At the age of seven years he left home in search of spiritual unfoldment. Jani states that at the age of eleven years he was blessed by a goddess. He claims that since that blessing he has gained his sustenance from nectar that filters down through a hole in his palate, and has not passed urine or stools since then. Mr. Jani explained, "I get the elixir of life from the hole in my palate, which enables me to go without food and water." Almost daily Mr. Jani enters a state of Samadhi characterized by extreme bliss and enormous light and strength. He says that he has never experienced medical problems. He says that he did not speak for a period of forty-five years.

In November 2003, after over a year of coaxing, Prahlad Jani was finally persuaded to participate in a scientific research study. A medical research team of twenty-one specialists, headed by Dr. Sudhir V. Shah, had Mr. Jani under twenty-four hours of observation for ten days at the Sterling Hospital in Ahmedabad. The team's research expertise included cardiology, neurology, urology, gastroenterology, ophthalmology, renal function, pulmonary function, ENT analysis, psychiatry, general medicine, and other specialities. A series of investigations were done on Mr. Jani in each of these areas according to a pre-determined protocol, and additional tests were carried out as per suggestions of the team. At the conclusion of their intensive investigations the team's doctors were left with an unexplained mystery, unable to disprove Mr. Jani's claims.

Mr. Jani was initially kept in ICU for the first twenty-four hours. For the next nine days he was kept in a specially prepared room with a sealed-off toilet and a glass door. The room was also equipped with video surveillance to continuously monitor Mr. Jani. Additionally, staff persons were assigned to stay in the same room with Jani round-the-clock to make sure that he did not eat, drink, or pass urine or stool.

To assure researchers of no possible intake of water, Mr. Jani agreed he would not bathe during the medical investigation. Mr. Jani was permitted a small measured quantity of water to use as a mouthwash. He then spat the water into a beaker to verify that none had been drunk. An ultrasound, which was made of Mr. Jani's bladder twice daily, indicated that there was urine accumulation, which subsequently decreased on its own without passing.

At the end of the ten days of observation, the team of doctors verified that Prahladbhai Jani had not taken food or drank fluids. (The average person cannot survive without water for more than four days.) The team concluded that Mr. Jani's health had not deteriorated during this study. Also, according to the hospital's deputy superintendent, Dr. Dinesh Desai, "A series of tests conducted on him show his body mechanism is that of a normal person." Mr. Jani's survival without food or fluids remains one of those unexplained mysteries.

The following are excerpts from the research team's concluding report:

1. The protocol was strictly adhered to.

2. Mr. Jani had not passed or dribbled urine during these 10 days.

3. He has not taken anything by mouth or by any other routes not even water for 10 days.

4. All his parameters remained within the range determined by the committee.

5. He has shown evidence of formation of urine, which seems to be reabsorbed from his bladder wall. However, at present the committee does not have any scientific explanation for the same but the help of senior scientists and medical personnel of the country is being taken for the same.

We are surprised as to how he has survived despite above particularly without passing urine for 10 days and remaining generally physically fit. However, it should be made very clear that we have confirmed the claim over 10 days only and we as scientists and responsible doctors cannot say anything regarding validity of the claim of his sustaining without food, drinks, urination and excretion of stools over several years.


Dr. Sudhir V. Shah (Consultant Neurophysician, Sterling Hospital/Associate professor of neurology at K. M. School of PGMR, Ahmedabad) headed the research panel of doctors who performed this study. I am deeply grateful to Dr. Sudhir V. Shah for providing the Case Summary of this study along with the photos of Mr. Jani. To view the Case Summary of Mr. Jani in its entirety please go to: P. Jani Medical Report.

Voila:

Prahlad Jani -
Ten Day Study
Medical Case Summary
Dr. Sudhir V. Shah

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Case Summary: Prahladbhai Jani



Case Summary A 76 years old male, Prahladbhai Jani (Chunriwala Mataji), gives a detailed description about his life. He left home at the age of 7 years and wandered in the jungles of Mt. Abu, Girnar, Narmada, etc. At the age of 11 years he had some supernatural experience and this changed his life. According to him he has no desire to eat, drink liquids or pass urine or stool since then. He had been physically fit. Almost daily he goes in a state of extreme bliss (Samadhi) where he experiences enormous light and strength. He attributes his strength to an elixir coming out through his palate.

He has studied up to 3 standards and knows to read and write with limited abilities. According to him he did not speak for about 45 years (Maunbrat). In 1942 he was taken at Jaslok Hospital and was under care of doctors and police for 45 days. One and half years back he was investigated by Dr. Sudhir V. Shah for initial analysis of his state of health.

He has no past history of any major illnesses, hospitalization [save 1942 for observations], major or minor surgeries or drug intake.

Mr. Jani accepted to undergo all non invasive procedures and blood investigations but refused for any invasive procedure from the beginning. He never wanted anything to be introduced through anyway to his body.

It was decided to study him by a panel of doctors, which included:

Dr. Sudhir V. Shah (Consultant Neurophysician, Sterling Hospital/Associate Professor of Neurology at K. M. School of PGMR, Ahmedabad)
Dr. Urman Dhruv (Physician & Secretary of Association of Physicians of Ahmedabad (APA))
Dr. V. N. Shah (Diabetologist, Director-Sterling Hospital)
Dr. Bharat Gadhavi (General Surgeon/Medical Superintendent-Sterling Hospital)
Dr. Kandarp Parikh (Urologist)
Dr. Dinesh Patel/Dr. Hemant Patel (Radiologists)
Dr. Sanjay Mehta (Neuro Radiologist & Sonologist)
Dr. Gargey Sutaria (Radiologist)
Dr. Sanjiv Haribhakti (G. I. Surgeon)
Dr. Navneet Shah (Physician, Endocrinologist)
Dr. Prakash Darji/Dr. Sonal Dalal/ Dr. Pankaj Shah (Nephrologists)
Dr. Bansi Saboo (General Physician)
Dr. Shrenik Shah (Cardiologist)
Dr. Dhanesh Patel (General Surgeon)
Dr. O. M. Modi (Senior Physician)
Dr. Hemang Desai (Psychiatrist)
Dr. Jayesh Sheth (Genetician & Endocrinologist)
Dr. Dhaval Modi (Ophthalmologist)
Dr. Jayeeta Chaudhary (Dietician)
Dr. Mukesh Patel (Pulmonologist)
Dr. Ruchir Shah (ENT Surgeon)
Several other doctors also examined him from time to time.

He was kept in Sterling Hospital (Gurukul Road, Ahmedabad) from 13/11/03 (10:00 AM) to 22/11/03 (10:00 AM) for observation. Directors of Sterling Hospital specially Dr. V. N. Shah and the management committee of Sterling Hospital kindly consented to look after the ethical aspects and the funds for the project including various tests.

The strict monitoring to ascertain the genuinity of his claim (Not eating anything, not drinking anything, not passing urine and not passing stool) was done by the unbiased august body, i.e. Association of Physicians of Ahmedabad, under precise protocol set by the Secretary of the Association, Dr. Urman Dhruv, along with executive committee of the association.

The research panel of doctors was headed by Dr. Sudhir V. Shah (Consultant Neurophysician, Sterling Hospital/Associate professor of neurology at K. M. School of PGMR, Ahmedabad).

During the project, Dr. Sudhir Shah almost daily was in touch with Professor Dr. Selvamurthy who is the over all controller of Defence laboratories including DIPAS (Defence Institute of Physiology and Allied Sciences), New Delhi. He was kind enough to guide the protocol of monitoring as well as further tests for the project.

During the study period Mr. Jani was completely monitored by doctors, staff members and security people all throughout the day.

He was asked to make an affidavit to undergo the study with clear understanding that if his health or medical parameters deteriorate then panel of doctors will withdraw from the study.

He was kept in ICU for 24 hours, i.e. 13/11/03 (10:00 AM to 14/11/03 (10:00 AM) and then was kept in a room with glass door. The toilet door was sealed. CCTV camera was set in the room for the rest of the period of study, i.e. from 14/11/03 to 22/11/03 (10:00 AM). Medical officers on duty were assigned the job to monitor him. Staff persons were deputed on round-the-clock duty for 9 days and nights continuously to stay with Mr. Jani in the same room to closely watch him and make sure that he does not eat, drink, pass urine or stool. The video tapes were reviewed for all 24 hours of all these days by committee. Mr. Jani was not allowed to go out of the room except for sonography of bladder and MRI testings, but even during that period, he was all the way accompanied by doctors.

Clinical opinions of system examination of all experts were obtained including cardiac, renal, neurological, urological, gastrointestinal, general medical, pulmonological, ophthalmic, ENT, psychiatry and others. A series of investigations were done as per protocol defined earlier as well as additional tests were carried out as per suggestions of the team.

Clinically all his systems were generally normal. All his special senses were also ok except moderate hearing loss. However, his pulse remained at 42-46/min, BP about 114/80 mmHg and respiration around 12-14/min. His cognition and behavior was all right. His weight was taken daily. His clinical examination including vital data and general examination and systemic examination was done daily. Urinary volume in the bladder was checked by ultrasound twice daily at 10:00 AM & 6:00 PM. This showed that there was urine accumulation, which ultimately decreased on its own without passing.

Blood samples were checked regularly with frequent monitoring of CBC, RFT, electrolytes, sugar and acetone. There was mild alteration in renal parameters and there was slight fall in weight, which subsequently stabilized. Otherwise all reports were in normal range. Genetic study report is awaited. The above study was done for the period of 10 days.


Pertinent Clinical Investigations:

Hematology:

Blood Group: �A� +ve

Date: 12/11/03

Hb: 10.8 G%
T.RBC: 4.17
TC: 4880 /c.mm.
DC: 40/47/10/03/00
PC: 3,52,000 /c.mm.
ESR: After 1 hr: 10 mm

Blood Indices:
HCT: 35.8
MCV: 85.9
MCH: 25.9
MCHC: 30.2

Date: 14/11/03

Hb: 11.3 G%
T.RBC: 4.37
TC: 5780 /c.mm.
DC: 47/41/09/03/00
PC: 4,25,000 /c.mm.

Blood Indices:
HCT: 37.9
MCV: 86.7
MCH: 25.9
MCHC: 29.8

Date: 16/11/03

Hb: 11.5 G%
T.RBC: 4.49
TC: 5640 /c.mm.
DC: 52/36/09/03/00
PC: 4,53,000 /c.mm.

Blood Indices:
HCT: 38.5
MCV: 85.7
MCH: 25.6
MCHC: 29.9

Date: 18/11/03

Hb: 12.3 G%
T.RBC: 4.87
TC: 8180 /c.mm.
DC: 66/27/04/03/00
PC: 5,03,000 /c.mm.

Blood Indices:
HCT: 42.0
MCV: 86.2
MCH: 25.3
MCHC: 29.3

Date: 20/11/03

Hb: 12.9 G%
T.RBC:5.17 m/c.mm.
TC: 7690 /c.mm.
DC: 62/25/04/05/01
PC: 4,86,000 /c.mm.
MPV: 9.0 fl
ESR: After 1 hr: 25 mm; After 2 hr: 52 mm

Blood Indices:
HCT: 42.2
MCV: 81.6
MCH: 25.0
MCHC:30.6

Biochemistry:

Date: 12/11/03

Prolactin: 3.80
S. Cortisol: 12.2 microgm/dL
S. Total Proteins:
Total Proteins: 7.27
Albumin: 4.05
Globulin: 3.22
A/G Ratio: 1.26

Gamma GT: 31.0 U/L

Thyroid Function Test:

T-3: 0.86 ng/ml
T-4: 5.90
TSH: 3.15 microIU/ml

Lipid Profile:

S. Cholesterol: 216.0 mg/dl
S. Triglycerides: 127.6 mg/dl
HDL: 57.2 mg/dl
Direct LDL: 118.9 mg/dl
Cal. LDL: 133.28 mg/dl
Very low density lipoprotein: 26 mg/dl
LDL/HDL: 2.079
Cholesterol/HDL: 3.776

S. Electrolytes:

S. Na+: 139.8 mmol/L
S. K+: 4.61 mmol/L
S. Cl-: 103.2 mmol/L
S. Acid Phosphatase:
Total Acid Phosphatase: 4.58 IU/L
Non Prostatic ACP: 2.58 IU/L
Prostatic Phosphatase: 135.19 IU/L

S. Bilirubin:

Total Bilirubin: 0.48 mg/dl
Conj: 0.10 mg/dl
Unconj: 0.38 mg/dl
Delta: 0 mg/dl
SGPT: 21.0 U/L
SGOT: 22.0 U/L
S. Alk. Phosphatase: 95.0 U/L

FBS: 85.7 mg/dl
Blood Urea: 33.0 mg/dl
S. Creatinine: 1.36 mg/dl
S. Uric acid: 5.26 mg/dl
S.Acetone : 10 mg/dl
Human Growth Hormone: 0.14 ng/ml

Date: 14/11/03

Blood Urea: 46.9 mg/dl
S. Creatinine: 1.53 mg/dl
S. Na+: 145.1 mmol/L
S. K+: 4.60 mmol/L
S. Cl-: 107.0 mmol/L
S.Acetone : 10 mg/dl

Date: 15/11/03

S. Na+: 143.7 mmol/L
S. Acetone: 30.0 mg/dl (Present)

Date: 16/11/03

Blood Urea: 59.6 mg/dl
S. Creatinine: 1.52 mg/dl
S. Na+: 148.3 mmol/L
S. K+: 4.97 mmol/L
S. Cl-: 106.8 mmol/L

RBS: 84.9 mg/dl
S. Acetone: 30.0 mg/dl (Present)

Date: 18/11/03

S. Uric acid: 11.44 mg/dl
SGPT: 10.0 U/L
S. Acetone: 30.0 mg/dl (Present)
Blood Urea: 63.7 mg/dl
S. Creatinine: 1.75 mg/dl
S. Na+: 154.3 mmol/L
S. K+: 4.37 mmol/L
S. Cl-: 107.5 mmol/L

ABG: (Venous Blood)

PH: 7.31
PCO2: 48
PO2: 23
TCO2: 25
HCO3: 23
BE: -3.0
O2 sat: 35%
Venous RBS: 162.0 mg/dl

Date: 20/11/03

T-3: 0.97 ng/ml
T-4: 9.0 ug/dl
TSH: 2.1 ulu/dl
Plasma Cortisol:
AM: 11.0 ug/dl
FBS: 76 mg%
Blood Urea: 77 mg%
S. Creatinine: 1.7 mg%
S. Na+: 155.9 M.Eq/L
S. K+: 4.67 M.Eq/L
S. Cl-: 115.9 M.Eq/L
SGPT: 24 Units/ml
S.Acetone : 30 mg\dl

Date: 21/11/03

Blood Urea: 87.5 mg/dl
S. Creatinine: 1.46 mg/dl
S. Na+: 143.5 mmol/L
S. K+: 4.16 mmol/L
S. Cl-: 101.5 mmol/L
S. Acetone: 30.0 mg/dl (Present)

Date: 25/11/03

S. K+: 3.40 mmol/L
SGPT: 23.0
S. Creatinine: 1.40 mg/dl
S. Na+: 137.5 mmol/L
Blood Urea: 48.2 mg/dl
RBS: 99.8 mg/dl

Audiological Evaluation: (17/11/03)

Bilateral severe to profound degree of sensori-neural hearing loss.

ECG and cardiac evaluation were normal.

Radiological Investigations:

X-Ray Chest PA (12/11/03): No significant abnormality detected.

USG Abdomen (12/11/03): No significant abnormality detected.

Doppler examination of carotid, vertebral, abdominal aorta and peripheral arterial system of lower limbs were quite normal.

MR Angiography of Brain, Neck & abdomen was unremarkable.

MR Oesophagus: Normal study

MR cholanigopancreatography: Normal study

MR Abdomen � pelvis: Presence of bowel gas and solid faecal material.
Gall bladder collapsed.
Urinary bladder partially filled with urine around 70ml

MR Myelography: Normal study

Cartography (26/11/03):

Normal study except LVEF is between 22-35%

After day 10, the committee is satisfied with following matter:

1. The protocol was strictly adhered to.
2. Mr. Jani has not passed or dribbled urine during these 10 days.
3. He has not taken anything by mouth or by any other routes not even water for 10 days.
4. All his parameters remained within the range determined by the committee.
5. He has shown evidence of formation of urine, which seems to be reabsorbed from his bladder wall. However at present the committee does not have any scientific explanation for the same but the help of senior scientists and medical personnel of the country is being taken for the same.

We are surprised as to how he has survived despite above particularly without passing urine for 10 days and remaining generally physically fit.

However it should be made very clear that we have confirmed the claim over 10 days only and we as scientists and responsible doctors cannot say anything regarding validity of the claim of his sustaining without food, drinks, urination and excretion of stools over several years.

Our attempt is to understand this wonderful phenomenon having confirmed from our side over these 10 days and we are not sure whether this is reproducible in other human beings by the way of YOGA as he practices, or by other methods like Genetic Engineering. If so, also we are not sure whether and how it can contribute to human welfare. At the moment, we are trying to analyse the results and trying to learn for the betterment of science. Probably some invasive investigations may help understand this process, but from the beginning Mr. Jani has refused any invasive procedure or any sort of injections be it a dye only.

Dr. Urman Dhruv
(Physician & Secretary of APA)

Dr. S. V. Shah
(Consultant Neurology & Head of Research Committee)

Dr. V. N. Shah
(Diabetologist & Director-Sterling Hospital)

[Rteacher]

Here's the medical report of the earlier case:

[b]Prolonged Fasting -
How Is It Possible -
A Hypothesis
Dr. Sudhir V. Shah

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This article was originally published in scientific index journal Gujarat Medical Journal - March 2001.



PROLONGED FASTING - HOW IS IT POSSIBLE - A HYPOTHESIS

INTRODUCTION:

Recently a historical and amazing incidence took place in Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India. A gentleman called Shri Hira Ratan Manek(H.R.M.) aged 64 , a mechanical engineer residing at Calicut, originally belonging to Kutch., Gujarat, has just accomplished a remarkable record - a world record, by doing continuous fasting for 411 days, as per jain tradition, (i.e. taking only boiled water during daytime and just no other food or liquids). He had done similar jain fasting for 211 days in 1995-96. This time, he started fasting on 1.1.2000. The unique thing was, that this time he was under continuous day to day medical checking and elaborate medical testing - with a critical evaluation by a team of expert doctors, representing various fraternities of medical science including family physicians, physicians, cardiologist, neurologist, endocrinologist, surgeon, pathologists, genetician, radiologists, etc. Also from time to time several teams of physicists, chemists, biochemists, physiologists and several doctors from all different specialities from India as well as abroad have spent time to meet him, examine him. All of them have been impressed with the genuinity of fasting, but everybody is wondering how this has become possible. You will agree, that as per today�s scientific knowledge, this is just not possible and it is extremely difficult to explain this happening, even if the man is taken as superman or genetically a different human being. We now know of about at least 200 people living without food, on this earth.

The author of this hypothesis, was also part of the medical team and must have met and examined him several times during his unique fasting. The author also, like any scientist, had real sceptic behaviour towards this gentleman and had really taken this gentleman to toughest and most critical analytic check (keeping in a nursing home more than a month, isolating him in a cube, not allowing any of his relatives to stay with him, etc.) and all other doctors also had scrupulous checking. All of us are fully convinced about the genuinity and really are wonderstuck. Having satisfied fully with the genuinity, the team suddenly realized that the ball was inthe cot of doctors - as now they had to explain, how this gentleman could do this, and that too like a normal man he talks, moves around, meets people, gives lectures and talks intelligently and quite logically, i.e. all his systems are normal including cognition.

Ultimately, the job was left to the author to try to hypothesize something. The author had accepted it. But he realized that he was in deep waters. It's one of the most difficult tasks he had ever had in the past. Really speaking, this is a subject of occultism and spiritual science, and hence our experimental science had natural limitations. So the author has tried to evolve a hypothesis, which starts with logic, then available scientific knowledge is applied and ultimately again logic leading to �Speculative VISION� is applied. Hence, he does not claim that things presented here are all the way scientific, but he assures you a great experience, opening up �the dialogues� and assures that you will have a chance to examine several fantastic possibilities. Who knows truth may unfold itself in coming years, from these possibilities. The author has already received several queries from internet, after floating it on the same.

THE HYPOTHESIS

This is indeed unique. You will agree that such a prolonged continuous Jain fasting for religious (Spread of Ahimsa and other high mottos) and scientific purposes (to create awarness about Sun-energy) and also aimed at solution of four way human crisis (Physical, Mental, food & neurological) under scrupulous daily medical supervision is unheard of. It�s just fantastic, and absolutely amazing, but this is not a myth. It's not happening in Himalayas or distant jungles; it is happening in Ahmedabad, Gujarat (India) in the continuous presence of public and under strict medical check and supervision by team of expert doctors.

There is no reason to be sceptic; one may personally come and himself or herself check & scrutinize; as we doctors have done all these months and fellow men have been staying with him all throughout. Several visitors also see him throughout the day and night. Nobody ever had encountered even a doubtful situation. All of them have been satisfied with the genuinity. Even he was kept in a nursing home for more than a month for a critical checking as well as medical tests. He has been isolated from his relatives who are staying at Calicut . He is kept in a two-room flat, which is totally devoid of any kind of food.

Several doctors from India, Gujarat, Ahmedabad and abroad have from time to time examined and are unable to explain the scientific basis from current clinical knowledge, while declaring the genuinity of fasting. A team of medical doctors have supervised (medical examination as well as laboratory tests) throughout these fasting. This comprise of Dr. Sudhir Shah M.D.,D.M.(neuro), Dr. Nalin Gheewala M.D., Dr. Viresh Patel M.D., Dr. Navneet Shah M.D.(Physician and endocrinologist), Dr. K.K.Shah M.S. Gen.Surgery, Dr.Kalpesh Shah M.D.Radiologist, Dr. Gaurgey Sutaria Radiologist, Dr. Jayesh Sheth, Dr. P G. Shah, Dr. Prakash Doshi , (family physician) and several others.

Today, it is 411th day of Shri Hira Ratan Manek's fasting. (on Dt. 14th Februry 2001) He started fasting from 1.1.2000. He is on total fasting as per Jainism. He is consuming only boiled water daily between 11 a.m.to 4 p.m. only and no other liquids and just no other food, No I\V or I\Minjections. Medical checkup commenced few days before fasting programme and is continued till today. It consists of daily written record of pulse, blood pressure, respiration, temperature, water intake, urine output, weight, etc. Relevant hematological and biochemical (basic and few advanced) tests are done periodically, i.e. monthly or fortnightly. ECGs are taken regularly. Ultra Sonography, EEG, CT.Scan and M.R.I. brain have been taken at the end of one year, and a team consisting of general practitioners, physicians, surgeons, Cardiologists, endocrinologist and a neurologist have been examining him regularly and periodically from first day of fasting. Except for loss of 19 Kg weight, (Which is now stable with no further weight loss for last 3 months) a slight reduction of pulse rate and B.P., and definite reduction of respiratory rate (from 18 to now 10/minute) amazingly, there is no other medical abnormality. Even the brain and mental capacities are absolutely normal. There are hardly any findings. He has stopped passing stool after 16th day of fasting and urine output is maintained at around 600 to 800 c.c. His bloodsugar is between 60 to 90. Rest of the parameters are all normal.

Most surprisingly, he had himself climbed the famous Shatrunjay mountain (Palitana hill) on 4.4.01, on 401st day of his legendary fasting along with 500 fellowmen without anybody�s help, within 1.5 Hrs. only.

It is just amazing. Isn't it?

But how do we hypothesize it ? How does science look at it?

As per our present day scientific understanding, under normal circumstances of prolonged starvation, (under accidental situation or extraordinary situation) human being looses weight fast. First carbohydrate is utilized. Then ketones appear in urine in first week. Then proteins are burnt. Later fat are mobilized from body stores and used. Before that, the person becomes dull, lethargic and irritable, his logic and reasoning fails and vital parameters fall and within 8 to 10 weeks, as per science, the physical existence will be challenged.

Here, there has been no such ill effect. How do we explain this ? How does his energy mathematics work? How he is still so intact with normal intellect, normal mental function? So far, there is no solid thesis (as this is the first event in the world, under medical supervision), there has to be some logical, scientific hypothesis. It explains quite a bit, but also leaves few questions unanswered, for all of us to further analyses. It also opens, at the same time, several new avenues for the coming time to work upon it. (e.g. issue of obesity, the possibility of cosmic energy, the functions of pineal gland)

Here, we propose a hypothesis which has four basic steps to explain energy-metabolic mathematics.i.e.

(1) Reducing calorie requirement by chronic adaptation.
(2) Deriving basic energy from cosmic sources - chiefly, `sun energy'- solar energy.
(3) Utilizing the energy in the efficient way and recycling the same in his own body.
(4) Genetically or phenotypically a different body dis-position.

Let us discuss the proposition step by step.

(1)Chronic Adaptation Syndrome:

As the body and the mind adapts to chronic stress in a healthier way, as compared to acute stress, similarly body's adaptation must be different to chronic fasting (beyond 30 days) as compared to acute fasting (e.g. 3 to 15 days.) No body knows which is the exact point, where body adapts chronically, but 30 days sounds reasonable time though it may vary individually. This is some kind of hibernation.

The routine calorie mathematics sounds logical and applicable to acute fasting where carbohydrates break up first, ketones appear in urine and weight loss starts; fat is burnt and muscle mass reduces and vital functions and mental capacity may start slowing down. Thus in acute fasting, energy dissipated must come from stored sources of body to match 1:1 ratio of calorie consumption against utilization.

In chronic adaptation; the metabolism of body must slow down. The body needs are reduced to the minimum. This is possible by down regulation of cellular and receptor function, altering the energy metabolism to the lowest possible extent. Oxygen and water are supplied to cells as basic things. At this stage, the hunger centre will become depressed and satiety centre will be activated. So there will not be any feeling of hunger or food craving. Here hypothalamus(the master of automatic nervous system and the organ of behavior) plays an important role.

It may be possible for such an individual to do routine activity with very low amount of energy or calories as 500-600 calories, to sustain cellular metabolism. In truly hybernating animals and human beings, the energy need may go down further. Thus depending upon the activity of the individual, the energy must be provided.

At the cellular level, mitochondria may play a vital role in energy storage by proliferation. Other organelles of the cell may also help in the process of chronic adaptation.

(2) Deriving Energy from Cosmic Sources - Solar Energy:

Whatever low amount of energy, that is required, must come from some source. He is only on boiled water - which as per science is having hardly any caloric value. Or does it really supply some energy? He doesn�t take any type of food or liquids except boiled water. So to run the cellular metabolism and to perform daily activities, he must be deriving energy from surroundings. He is living on earth, where he is exposed to the Sun, Earth, Water, Plants and human beings and other living animals. These are the options available to him. We will call these, cosmic sources of energy.

So most likely, he is drawing energy from these cosmic sources - cosmic energy. Hence more correctly it is energy mathematics rather than calorie mathematics; a concept worth understanding. Out of all cosmic sources, The SUN is the most powerful & readily available source & has been used for energy, by sages & rishis since ancient time, including lord Mahavir, Tibetan lamas & other Rishis. The solar energy has two components: the light and the heat.

Mankind is also using solar energy for running solar cooker, solar heater, solar car through solar batteries etc. Similarly Shri Hira Ratan Manek (H.R.M.) has almost converted himself into a kind of a solar cooker and has solar batteries activated in himself. The solar energy has two components, the light and the heat (temperature). Luckily India has a rich potential to become superpower as we have a constant availability of solar energy, all throughout the year.

How then SUN energy is received? The Brain & the mind are the most powerful recipients in human body. The retina & the pineal gland (The third eye or the seat of soul as per Rene Descartes) are equipped with photoreceptor cells & may be considered photosensitive organs.

The method practiced by Shri Hira Ratan Manek: he suggests to look at the rising sun daily, with naked eye and without blinking the eyes, as far as possible. To look for a few seconds initially and then every week to increase by few few seconds to ultimately reach up to several minutes. Eyes and specially retina must be healthy.

As plant kingdom thrives on chlorophyll & photo synthesis, directly dependant on the Sun, similarly some kind of photosynthesisor photoanalysis must be taking place; when we hypothesize Sun energy .Through complex ways & distinct pathways this energy must enter the body. Is it a direct entry into the physical body, or it enters through auras of human body (please refer Karelian photography) is yet to be examined. It is quite possible that human aura plays a modulating role for allowing this energy into the physical body.

There is a pathway from the retina, to the hypthalamus, called the retinohypothalamic tract. This brings information about the dark & light cycles to supra chiasmatic nucleus (SCN) of the hypothalamus. From the SCN, impulses along the nerve travel via the pineal nerve (Sympathetic nervous system) to the pineal gland. These impulses inhibit the production of melatonin. When these impulses stop (at night or in dark, when the light no longer stimulates the hypothalamus) pineal inhibition caeses, & melatonin is released. The pineal gland (or the third eye ) is therefore a photosensitive organ & an important timekeeper for the human body. The unexplored process of energy synthesis & transformation from the sun energy perhaps partly occurs here.

While going through the details of recent scientific literature & also comparing it with ancient Indian spiritual texts, as well as Western occult & new age, following things are apparent.

The activation of pineal gland is the key step in psychic, spiritual & energy transformation processes. Here, in this gland, energy processing & re-distribution might be taking place. Pineal gland is the subtle commander of all endocrine glands, therefore controlling the humoral system. Through secretion of melatonin, it also regulates the circadian rhythm, sleep wake cycle & it also slows down aging process. It has psychic properties & is the seat of soul or mind - so called the third eye. (Possibly that is why Tilak is done in the forehead - in front of pineal and yogis do meditation with closed eyes, concentrating in between two eyebrows.

It is the Agna (Ajna) chakra of tantrik system. Its activation can be done with prolonged yoga & meditation techniques or through practice of solar energy. The later does not use classic yoga steps.

As per recent research in animals; Pineal gland also inhibits growth & metastasis of some tumors. It has a stimulatory effect on the immune system. In birds & other animals, it has a magnetic material & is therefore the navigation centre in birds. Scientists are looking at magnetic, navigatory properties of pineal gland in humans. Further, through the secretion of serotonin, it is involved in psychic experiences, synaptic transmission and several unknown powerful occult powers. A lot of research is required to validate this, though some initial studies have already supported this view ,e.g. the chemical structure of LSD (a drug used for psychic experiences)is similar to serotonin.

So pineal activation and charging through solar energy is the vital step & that is the doorway of energy highway. This may be kundlini shakti activation, in other words.

Normal Pineal gland measures 6 x 8 mm in human body. As per C.T.Scan & MRI Scan reports of Mr.Hira Ratan Manek it is 8 x 11 mm. (enlarged!) This may indirectly support the important role of pineal gland in energy transformation. However it is not necessary that anatomic enlargement always reflects hyperfunction . The increased hormonal secretion i.e. melatonin and serotonin levels should also be measured. Even without anatomical enlargement, there can be hyperfunction. Then we should study the pineal size and hormonal level in all psychically and spiritually evolved people or all people with extraordinary capacities.

Ever since mankind has started ignoring the psychically & Spiritually equipped pineal gland it has fallen on merely physical-material plane & therefore endless pains have fallen on the mankind.

Mankind must now relearn to activate pineal & the other psychospiritual bodies either through cosmic energy dynamics or through practice of Rajyoga or the Tantrik ways or other such practices. (One can imagine that high voltage energy transmission through shaktipat as occasionally yogis do to transfer energy in to their esteem disciples may be utilizing pineal gland or similar bodies). Kundlini Shakti is said to be activated through these & happiness & bliss with peace are bound to follow.

This solar (light and heat) energy may be transformed into electrical, magnetic or chemical energies in body. Once processed, this energy must be transported & must be stored somewhere. Actually the ultimate form of all energies is light. Energy & light can be transformed into matter & back again to energy.

Hypothalamus is the commander of autonomic nervous system & pineal gland is in proximity to hypothalamus and is connected to it through autonomic nerves. So it is logical that new energy transportation may either activate this system or it may use this system as vehicle. Parasympathetic nerves & its hormones & chemicals may be more useful than sympathetic system. As sympathetic system increases body needs (e.g. thinking, fighting stress, excitement etc.), parasympathetic system is known to reduce the energy needs. It keeps the person serene & at mental peace and alters the metabolic requirements to a lower state & puts it to sleep. We can also hypothesize that there may be other hormones, or chemicals too, involved in this complex energy transportation system. It is well known that pituitary and pineal glands are well connected through regulatory hormones and nerves. While pituitary gland expresses and controls physical body, we have seen that pineal expresses and controls mainly mental and spiritual bodies.

Thus intricate balance and harmony between the two glands is very crucial point in the total (physical, mental, emotional and spiritual) health or well-being of a human body, and it must be anyway achieved.

The role of temporal lobe & limbic system also may be important. It may work as a regulator, if not receptor and may be psychically involved in directing the energy in proper pathways. Deep into the limbic systems or in the parts of medulla oblongata, this energy may ultimately be stored & from time to time, may be recalled, charged or recycled. Medulla oblongata has all vital centres & therefore can be proposed as store of vital energy.

Thus there are energy receivers or receptors, processors, analyzers, modulators, transformers, transporters, stores (organ or bodies) etc. to explain the energy logistics.

As this form of energy mathematics is different from what we conventionally are used to, in form of food & calorie mathematics; we will call this food as microfood or mind utilization food (ManobhakshiAahar).

Here, we have discussed about the Sun energy, but one may learn to use any source from the cosmos, i.e. air, water, plants, earth, living humans, animals etc. This may be called Surya vigyan, but equally there is Chandra vigyan and Vanaspati vigyan as mentioned in our ancient texts. Also apart from the retina & the pineal gland, skin & other senses may also be responsible for receiving energies from these different sources. In short, this opens up tremendous possibilities, which will need a very sincere effort from us to crystallize and to practice it for welfare of mankind. This microfood can solve food crisis on earth, & in fact, is the only possible food in present context for somebody who wants to be a long-term space traveler or planet traveler. Amazing! It is time to note that our routine food is not the only source to sustain the body.

The role of mind: Whatever said, in this step, (i.e. the Step 2 of deriving the energy from the sun & transforming it in body.) the mind may be playing the crucial role. It is well known that the mind has enormous capacity, (The soul has even further or infinite capabilities). Through Sun Tratak & Meditation, tremendous capacities are attained, which will bring tranquility to mind and also slow down metabolism, as mentioned in step 1. Mind can do everything including so called miracles. It can revitalize body, it can heal diseases, it can know things in advance & it can manipulate laws of physics. The phenomena of telepathy, reading somebody�s thoughts, teleporting the things, bending the items, all are very well known examples of human mind capacities. If a strong mind decides to do unusual fasting, it can certainly do. It is unclear till this date whether mind is a separate entity or the pineal gland it self. According to some, each cell has mind and thus in other words mind is a diffuse electromagnetic and biochemical continuous process. And one thing is clear, that out of all body organ, mind has a direct access to cosmic energy. Our mind is an invagination or outpouching of cosmic mind and cosmic energy, and pineal in that case would be the knob-important hub of the mind.

The faith & blessings from Yogis & Gurus have their own roles in sustaining oneself in adverse situations. On religious days, under high spirits & a cultivated atmosphere, a few people surprisingly do unusual things; like walking on fire, or piercing pointed swords through their bodies without damaging themselves. On similar lines, if someone does fasting, these blessings and faith may help to pull one through the period of physiological problems; till one enters chronic adaptation phase.

(3) Energy Economy in Efficient Ways and Re-cycling the Energy in His Own Body:

Those, who are chronically deprived of energy, learn to utilize the available energy in more efficient ways - so that even at the low energy state body metabolism and vital functions including nervous system do not suffer. This is quite logical & one can imagine this happening in the individuals caught in natural calamities, or those left alone in the sea or survivors of high altitudes after plane crash etc... managing to live for several days or weeks, without food.

Also, one can hypothesize that these people may be recycling the energy in their own bodies. This may be done, through complex mechanisms, involving neural & humoral organs. Solar energy, dissipated through body may get absorbed into the earth & while walking barefooted on the soil, standing in the sun, may help absorbing this energy through skin of toes, sole of feet; as Shri Hira Ratan Manek does regularly & always preaches to do so to recycle the energy. This may be related to the principles of acupressure or reflexology.

(4) Genotypically or Phenotypically a Different Body Predisposition:

We should also examine this aspect carefully, as this leaves scope for an important discussion - whether each & every individual can use sun energy & if so, how efficiently?

Only time can answer this. But it is possible that each individual has a different genetic code and also each body has different physical capabilities. Hence, one may be able to receive this Solar energy more readily, can transform & store it in a better way & also can utilize more efficiently & even recycle it - while other person may not be able to do it to the same extent.

Hence, scientific experiments must be taken up, if possible on a randomized base upon volunteers with control population. However, leaving such study aside for the time being, is possible that many people can do this experiment very successfully under supervision. Prior body Checkup & particularly retinal-ophthalmic checkup is mandatory and under strict medical guidance, a graded time bound experiment upon volunteers may be taken up.

Other possibility is that, we can use gene-cloning technique. By preserving the celline of Shri Hira Ratan Manek, we can clone him or use his gene for gene transfer therapy.

Whatever we do; use cloning or train the whole mankind, it can change the destiny of mankind. First of all, the food crisis will be solved. Through activation of this supreme energy in body & transforming it in electrical, chemical & magnetic forms, person can not only enjoy a state free of diseases but can gain positive health with a vibrant aura. His luster can impress even enemies & enmity may dissolve. His psychological disease can disappear. With improvement of mental & intellectual capacities one may be able to use brain power up to 90 to 100 %, as against to 3 - 10% as we normally do.

There will be reign of peace & prosperity. As there is no food, the bad thoughts and ill feelings will be stopped, so eternal peace is bound to follow.

This will also question the routine calorie mathematics.

This challenges the common calorie based science. Its limitations are highlighted. At the same time the complex issues of obesity & malnutrition can be readily explained through the concept of solar and cosmic energy. It is possible that obese people, though not eating excess food, still receive energy from cosmic sources, unknowingly explaining their obesity.

The concept of cosmic energy can be used thus for total uplift of mankind at physical mental, intellectual, emotional & spiritual levels. It has tremendous applications. One can utilize it, the way he can. Extensive scientific research work therefore should be immediately taken up, by appropriate authorities, including bioscientists & medical personnel, to answer all these issues. Awareness of all human beings must be created simultaneously and all those who are interested should work on this highly potential and fascinating project, of cosmic energy as well as potentialities of the pineal gland and other related issues discussed in these pages.


Ref. case study of Mr. Hira Ratan Manek : 411 day fast :completed on 14.02.2001 and parna was done on 15.02.2001 in presence of about a lakh people with graceful presence of jain sadhus, several Hindu saints, H.E. the Governor of Gujarat, respected Mayor of Ahmedabad and several other highly placed people.


* Dr.Sudhir V. Shah M.D., D.M. Neurophysician
206-8, Sangini Complex, Nr. Parimal Crossing, Ellisbridge, Ahmedabad-380 006.
Ph. : (c) 079-646 70 52 (R) 079-662 17 42.

Hon. Neurologist : H.E. The Governor of Gujarat, India.

President : Asso. of Physician of A'bad. (97-9

Hon. Asst.Prof. of neurology : Sheth K.M School of PGMR
Smt. N.H.L. M.M College

Hon. Neurologist : V.S.Hospital, Ahmedabad.
Jivraj Mehta Smarak Hospital

I acknowledge suggestions & help received for this hypothesis...
From : (1) Dr. Navneet Shah M.D. FICA (U.S.A.)
PhysicianEndocrinologist (C) 6425566.

(2) Dr. Gargey Sutaria (M.D.) &
Dr. Kalpesh Shah (M.D.)Radiologist
Usmanpura C.T.Scan Centre.

Clinical Assistant:
Dr. Nalin Gheewala M.D. Physician.
Dr. K.K. Shah M.S. Surgeon.
Dr. Viresh Patel M.D. Physician.
Dr. P.G.Shah M.B.B.S.
Family Physician.
Dr. P.D.Doshi M.B.B.S.
Family Physician.
http://www.amazingabilities.com/amaze5c.html

[RACETRAITOR]

Shouldn't you be standing in an airport right now?

[mindmetoo]

[Underwaterbob]

Again I'll ask: why no follow up? We have this one half-assed, five year-old report that tells us nothing about how he achieves this major feat. They even admit he lost weight during the ten day trial. He claims to have been doing this for nearly seventy years. He claims he receives "the elixir of life through a hole in his palate". Did they test this hole? Seems all you'd have to do is open his mouth and take a look.

I notice both of your examples were presided over by the same Dr. Sudhir V. Shah.

[RACETRAITOR]

If they test it and it's a failure (for instance because he's caught eating, they would more likely let the whole thing die than report on the failure.

[Rteacher]

The earlier case - if you have the patience and vision to read the small print I posted - is more impressive.
http://www.amazingabilities.com/amaze5c.html

I'm sure that I've stated before (on the original thread at least) that effective performance of mystic yoga is very rare - and practically impossible for most people - in this age.

So, basically, I think this idea of achieving yogic power received from "cosmic energy" will inevitably entail genetic engineering and cloning (and probably kidnapping and forced detainment) of yogi "volunteers")

Moreover, my understanding is that many mystic yogis are demonic, prefering to worship demigods for personal power rather than cultivating devotion to God (the Supreme Mystic - whom they often misidentify themselves to be.)

Personally, I don't think that artificially extending duration of life or eliminating the need for food is necessarily a good thing - from a spiritual perspective.

A better way to eliminate world hunger and relieve misery would be to widely promote vegetarianism and devotional principles aimed at attaining the Supremely blissful destination beyond the material world.

Here are A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada's comments on mystic yogic powers:

...The mystic perfections achieved by actually successful yogis are eight in number. Anima-siddhi refers to the power by which one can become so small that he can enter into a stone. Modern scientific improvements also enable us to enter into stone, because they provide for excavating so many subways, penetrating the hills, etc. So anima-siddhi, the mystic perfection of trying to enter into stone, has also been achieved by material science. Similarly, all of the yoga-siddhis, or perfections, are material arts. For example, in one yoga-siddhi there is development of the power to become so light that one can float in the air or on water. That is also being performed by modern scientists. They are flying in the air, they are floating on the surface of the water, and they are traveling under the water.

After comparing all these mystic yoga-siddhis to materialistic perfections, we find that the materialistic scientists try for the same perfections. So actually there is no difference between mystic perfection and materialistic perfection. A German scholar once said that the so-called yoga perfections had already been achieved by the modern scientists, and so he was not concerned with them. He intelligently went to India to learn how he could understand his eternal relationship with the Supreme Lord by means of bhakti-yoga, devotional service.

Of course, in the categories of mystic perfection there are certain processes which the material scientists have not yet been able to develop. For instance, a mystic yogi can enter into the sun planet simply by using the rays of the sunshine. This perfection is called laghima. Similarly, a yogi can touch the moon with his finger. Though the modern astronauts go to the moon with the help of spaceships, they undergo many difficulties, whereas a person with mystic perfection can extend his hand and touch the moon with his finger. This siddhi is called prapti, or acquisition. With this prapti-siddhi, not only can the perfect mystic yogi touch the moon planet, but he can extend his hand anywhere and take whatever he likes. He may be sitting thousands of miles away from a certain place, and if he likes he can take fruit from a garden there. This is prapti-siddhi.

The modern scientists have manufactured nuclear weapons with which they can destroy an insignificant part of this planet, but by the yoga-siddhi known as isita one can create and destroy an entire planet simply at will. Another perfection is called vasita, and by this perfection one can bring anyone under his control. This is a kind of hypnotism which is almost irresistible. Sometimes it is found that a yogi who may have attained a little perfection in this vasita mystic power comes out among the people and speaks all sorts of nonsense, controls their minds, exploits them, takes their money and then goes away.

There is another mystic perfection, which is known as prakamya (magic). By this prakamya power one can achieve anything he likes. For example, one can make water enter into his eye and then again come out from within the eye. Simply by his will he can perform such wonderful activities.

The highest perfection of mystic power is called kamavasayita. This is also magic, but whereas the prakamya power acts to create wonderful effects within the scope of nature, kamavasayita permits one to contradict nature--in other words, to do the impossible. Of course, one can derive great amounts of temporary happiness by achieving such yogic materialistic perfections.

Foolishly, people who are enamored of the glimmer of modern materialistic advancement are thinking that the Krsna consciousness movement is for less intelligent men. "I am better off being busy with my material comforts--maintaining a nice apartment, family and sex life." These people do not know that at any moment they can be kicked out of their material situation. Due to ignorance, they do not know that real life is eternal. The temporary comforts of the body are not the goal of life, and it is due only to darkest ignorance that people become enamored of the glimmering advancement of material comforts. Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has therefore said that the advancement of material knowledge renders a person more foolish, because it causes one to forget his real identity by its glimmer. This is doom for him, because this human form of life is meant for getting out of material contamination. By the advancement of material knowledge, people are becoming more and more entangled in material existence. They have no hope of being liberated from this catastrophe...
http://www.harekrsna.com/philosophy/acarya/writings/nod.htm

[Underwaterbob]

[Rteacher]

No offense, "Underwaterbob", but your latest post indicates to me that you oughta try coming up for a breath of air once in-a-while ...

It seems like you actually tried to read the report (or at lest skim it) but because it was hard to relate to you dismissed it as "unprofessional".

Keep in mind that there are significant cultural differences between western and Indian professionals in various fields, and that some of the latter are naturally very conversant in the philosophical and scientific basis of yoga.

(Also consider that English is for them a second language...)

In you first response, you give the impression that you think that the earlier report deals with the same case.

Re your last point, I think it's generally accepted (by experts not connected to the meat industry) that if more people were vegetarian - and less land used to feed cattle instead of people - there would be ample food produced to feed everone.

(And whenever there somehow isn't enough vegetarian food available, humans can kill lower forms of life like fish - or even cows when it's a question of survival - without incurring bad karma)

[Underwaterbob]

[Rteacher]

It doesn't seem very suspicious to me that the same neurologist headed the research team for the second study that was about eight years later.

Ahmedabad is a major city with diverse cultural influences.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmedabad

Hypotheses are always speculative in nature, aren't they? And this guy seems to duly acknowledge everyone who helped him put this eclectic one together ...

Ref. case study of Mr. Hira Ratan Manek : 411 day fast :completed on 14.02.2001 and parna [?] was done on 15.02.2001 in presence of about a lakh [100,000] people with graceful presence of jain sadhus, several Hindu saints, H.E. the Governor of Gujarat, respected Mayor of Ahmedabad and several other highly placed people.


* Dr.Sudhir V. Shah M.D., D.M. Neurophysician
206-8, Sangini Complex, Nr. Parimal Crossing, Ellisbridge, Ahmedabad-380 006.
Ph. : (c) 079-646 70 52 (R) 079-662 17 42.

Hon. Neurologist : H.E. The Governor of Gujarat, India.

President : Asso. of Physician of A'bad. (97-9

Hon. Asst.Prof. of neurology : Sheth K.M School of PGMR
Smt. N.H.L. M.M College

Hon. Neurologist : V.S.Hospital, Ahmedabad.
Jivraj Mehta Smarak Hospital

I acknowledge suggestions & help received for this hypothesis...
From : (1) Dr. Navneet Shah M.D. FICA (U.S.A.)
PhysicianEndocrinologist (C) 6425566.

(2) Dr. Gargey Sutaria (M.D.) &
Dr. Kalpesh Shah (M.D.)Radiologist
Usmanpura C.T.Scan Centre.

Clinical Assistant:
Dr. Nalin Gheewala M.D. Physician.
Dr. K.K. Shah M.S. Surgeon.
Dr. Viresh Patel M.D. Physician.
Dr. P.G.Shah M.B.B.S.
Family Physician.
Dr. P.D.Doshi M.B.B.S.
Family Physician.

http://www.amazingabilities.com/amaze5c.html

[DrunkenMaster]

I hope when I get old, I don't turn into a crazy person.

But I guess it could be worse. Losing both balls would be worse.

[JMO]

I don't understand why there are only one or two studies. It is so easy to test.

Put him in a room with a camera. Lock the door.

If he defecates he fails. If he eats anything or drinks anything, he fails. If he loses a significant amount of body weight, he fails. Do this for a 2 weeks.

Simple.

[RACETRAITOR]

Well, if he defecates within the first day or two, then maybe it means he's only breatharian for bursts.

Yeah, that would be a good way to conduct the experiment. There should be a way to see in, but absolutely no openings through which to pass food or water.

The problem is, I think when he died of dehydration in a few days, the experimenters would basically look like murderers.