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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| He won't resign even though the leadership is asking him to. Good for Uncle Ted, he can continue to embarass his party which is already demoralized. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
Someone had mentioned this in the other thread, rather then splitting the conversation, I'll point it out in this thread:
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| Legal experts note the judge has the discretion to give Stevens as little as no jail time and probation when he is sentenced. |
I can't envision Stevens getting anything other then probation and a fine at the very worst. At his age, it would be a risk to lock him up if he were to get seriously ill or be exposed to danger from another inmate. |
Probation? For SEVEN counts?
And since when has one's age, health, or potential danger from another inmate been a factor in sparing someone prison time? Next thing you'll be saying is that the jails are overcrowded so they'll let him go.
Do you seriously believe prisons don't know how to deal with violent criminals? At-risk prisoners can be given segregated housing. |
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:28 am Post subject: |
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Notes from the "real America" that loves its country:
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Anchorage rally welcomes Stevens
Supporters cheer 'lion of Alaska'
By SEAN COCKERHAM
[email protected]
(10/30/08 01:08:2
Sen. Ted Stevens returned to Alaska on Wednesday for the first time since his conviction, telling a crowd of supporters he made a mistake but is not a criminal and needs their help to save his re-election.
"Like most people, I'm not perfect. I naively trusted someone I thought was an honest friend. When he was neither honest nor a friend," Stevens said.
Stevens was talking about Bill Allen, former chief executive of the oilfield services company Veco Corp. and the prosecution's star witness against him. A Washington, D.C., jury on Monday convicted Stevens of seven felony counts of lying on financial disclosure forms about thousands of dollars of gifts and home renovations from Veco.
"My future is in God's hands," the Republican told the crowd of roughly 500 gathered in the PenAir hangar at Ted Stevens International Airport. "Alaska's future is in your hands."
Stevens' return marks the beginning of what his campaign says will be an aggressive, whirlwind, effort to persuade Alaskans to re-elect the 84-year-old senator. With the election just five days away, Stevens has little time and a big challenge.
But the crowd at his Anchorage rally seemed to harbor little doubt that Stevens, who showed flashes of both humility and defiance, would beat his challengers. They include Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich, a Democrat, who was holding a dueling rally at a union hall at the same time as Stevens' event.
There was undisguised hostility toward the federal government and the FBI at the Stevens event, with people wearing T-shirts that said "F*#@ the feds, vote for Ted." |
http://www.adn.com/ted-stevens/story/572441.html
Someone should tell Sen. Stevens it would be a little hard to represent Alaska from a federal prison cell. |
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:23 am Post subject: |
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http://edition.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/30/secret.senators/
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Sen. Stevens is 'the secret senator'
POSTED: 2255 GMT (0655 HKT), August 30, 2006
From Andrea Koppel, Ted Barrett and Abbi Tatton
CNN Washington Bureau
Adjust font size:
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The identity of the blogosphere's "secret senator" has been revealed.
CNN has confirmed that Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, has placed a hold on a bill that would require the government to publish online a database of federal spending.
"He does have a hold on the bill," Stevens' spokesperson Aaron Saunders told CNN. "At the time he placed the hold he notified Sen. [Tom] Coburn and his staff and identified several questions we had with the bill. Two weeks ago Sen. Coburn named Stevens as having a hold on the bill, so we don't consider it a secret."
Senate tradition allows any senator to keep a piece of legislation from reaching the Senate floor by placing a hold on the bill.
Coburn's office confirmed that Coburn had revealed Stevens' hold during a town hall meeting in Oklahoma two weeks ago.
The bill has become a cause c�l�bre for both liberal and conservative bloggers as they tried to uncover the "secret senator" who had blocked passage of the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act (S. 2590). The bill was introduced earlier this year by Sens. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, and Coburn, R-Oklahoma.... |
Isnt' this the sort of thing McCain should have been sponsoring?
But a fellow Republican was the one blocking it. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
Someone had mentioned this in the other thread, rather then splitting the conversation, I'll point it out in this thread:
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| Legal experts note the judge has the discretion to give Stevens as little as no jail time and probation when he is sentenced. |
I can't envision Stevens getting anything other then probation and a fine at the very worst. At his age, it would be a risk to lock him up if he were to get seriously ill or be exposed to danger from another inmate. |
Probation? For SEVEN counts?
And since when has one's age, health, or potential danger from another inmate been a factor in sparing someone prison time? Next thing you'll be saying is that the jails are overcrowded so they'll let him go.
Do you seriously believe prisons don't know how to deal with violent criminals? At-risk prisoners can be given segregated housing. |
BA,
I'm not saying that what he deserves, I'm saying don't be surprised when that's what he gets. Someone pointed out he'd be in a country club style most likely anyway, so the risk would probably be at a minimum. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, Ted Stevens is nuts. No doubt he has his right to an appeal, but he has been convicted.
Stevens says he hasn't yet been convicted
2 hrs 48 mins ago
FAIRBANKS, Alaska � Sen. Ted Stevens says he is not a convicted felon, at least until the appeal process is over.
"I've not been convicted yet," the Alaska Republican insisted Thursday in a meeting with the editorial board of the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner. "There's not a black mark by my name yet, until the appeal is over and I am finally convicted, if that happens. If that happens, of course I'll do what's right for Alaska and for the Senate ... I don't anticipate it happening, and until it happens I do not have a black mark."
A federal court jury on Monday convicted Stevens on seven counts of lying on Senate disclosure forms to conceal more than $250,000 in gifts and renovations to his home from VECO Corp. founder Bill Allen.
Stevens, the longest serving Republican in the U.S. Senate, is seeking re-election in Tuesday's election, and faces a formidable challenger in Democrat Mark Begich, the mayor of Anchorage.
There have been growing calls among Republican leaders for Stevens to resign, including from GOP presidential candidate John McCain and his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
Stevens dismissed that as "statements made on the trail, in the heat of battle."
Alaska's junior senator, Republican Lisa Murkowski, sat with Stevens in the editorial board meeting and was more critical of Republicans turning on Stevens.
"For all of them, it's a very close election. I think they're looking to their own political skin. If it helps them in their effort to gain re-election, they will, unfortunately, throw Ted under the bus," she said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081031/ap_on_go_co/stevens/print;_ylt=Anc8l6QnN6qX4U1r5x2HP6GMwfIE |
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: |
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He isn't nuts. He's 84 and somewhat senile.
His lawyer really should have pleaded senility in his defense. That wouldn't have looked to good during a re-election campaign, though.
This is more pathetic than outrageous, at least with regards to Stevens. Regarding Bill Allen, I hope he rots in prison and then rots in hell. The damage that he did to Alaska, to the legislators whose reputations he ruined, and the countless former employees he exploited, is incalculable. He is a stupid, venal, selfish, corrupt man. He singlehandedly wrecked Alaska in a thousand ways. All for riches and he power to steal even more riches.
Oh, here's some of the original Fairbanks News-Miner story on Stevens (a paper whose soul Bill Allen bought, after destroying the paper he actually bought):
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Stevens says appeal will clear his name, focuses on issues facing Alaska
By Rena Delbridge
Published Thursday, October 30, 2008
FAIRBANKS -- Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens is vehement that his name doesn�t bear a big, black mark � yet � and he believes his conviction is pending on the results of an appeal.
�I�ve not been convicted yet,� Stevens insisted. �There�s not a black mark by my name yet, until the appeal is over and I am finally convicted, if that happens. If that happens, of course I�ll do what�s right for Alaska and for the Senate ... I don�t anticipate it happening, and until it happens I do not have a black mark.�
He spoke on the record with the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner editorial board Thursday morning.
Stevens is fighting a close race to retain his seat against Democrat Mark Begich, the mayor of Anchorage. Polls have placed the two about even, prior to Stevens� conviction Oct. 27 on seven felony counts of lying on Senate financial disclosure forms.
Time has sped by since he was indicted at the end of July. He insisted on a speedy trial, hoping to be absolved well in advance of this year�s election.
He hasn�t had a solid night�s sleep in several months, he said, but still seems fighting mad and eager to clear his name.
But with a jury verdict in, numerous high-profile Republicans, including some Senate colleagues and vice presidential hopeful Sarah Palin, have called for him to step down.
Stevens said he dismisses those as �statements made on the trail, in the heat of battle.�
Suddenly something of an establishment outsider, Stevens called up words Gen. Frank Merrill offered his Marauders during World War II.
�He said, when you�re at the end of your rope, keep going, one step at a time. You�ll win,� Stevens said. �That�s what we�re doing.�
Sen. Lisa Murkowski, who sat in with Stevens during the interview, made a more direct rebuttal to statements calling for his resignation. She specifically mentioned Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and Sen. John McCain, campaigning for vice president and president, and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, who is up for re-election this year.
�I will remind everyone that they are all in the midst of an election,� she said. �For all of them, it�s a very close election. I think they�re looking to their own political skin. If it helps them in their effort to gain re-election, they will, unfortunately, throw Ted under the bus.�
Calls for resignation are a disservice to Alaskans, she said.
�It denies Alaskans the opportunity to vote for a Republican on the general ballot,� Murkowski said....
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http://newsminer.com/news/2008/oct/30/alaska-sen-stevens-says-he-will-clear-his-name/
And coverage of a Stevens campaign appearance:
http://newsminer.com/news/2008/oct/30/stevens-tells-fairbanksans-he-needs-their-trust-an/ |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| I once thought ALASKA might be one of the COOLEST places to live (and not just figuratively)...but between STEVENS and PALIN...damn...you got some serious insane in the brain with the politicians up there! |
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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When Alaska is cool, it is very, very cool.
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Anchorage suffers one of coldest Octobers ever
Anchorage Daily News
(10/31/08 15:14:2
Anchorage has logged the eighth coldest October on record, the National Weather Service said today.
With an average temperature of 29.7 degrees, October landed a spot in history as one of the 10 coldest out of the roughly 90 years since records have been kept in Anchorage.
The coldest October on record was in 1996, with an average temperature of 25.5 degrees. The 10th coldest was in 1965, with an average temperature of 30.7 degrees.
And, though there's little snow left on the ground to prove it, the month was also the 14th snowiest on record, the Weather Service said.
Snowfall for the month was 13.1 inches, 5.1 inches above normal. In years past, Octobers have seen as little as no snow to as much as 28.1 inches in 1996, the Weather Service said. |
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/574597.html
This past summer was one of the coldest on record, too.
The forecast:
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Tonight
Mostly clear. Lows 5 to 15 below...except to 5 above in the hills. Light winds.
Saturday
Partly cloudy. Highs 5 to 15. Light winds...except northeast winds 10 to 20 mph in the hills.
� ZIP Code Detail
Saturday Night
Increasing clouds with flurries. Lows zero to 10 below...except to 10 above in the hills. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Local gusts to 20 mph on the hills.
Sunday
Mostly cloudy with flurries. Highs 10 to 15. North winds 10 to 20 mph.
� ZIP Code Detail
Sunday Night
Mostly cloudy with a chance of snow. Lows 5 below to zero. Light winds. |
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=99701&wuSelect=WEATHER
When the weather is nice in the summer, it is glorious. Winters in Anchorage can be not much different from many places in the northern 48 states, sometimes even milder.
Before anyone goes into an anti-global warming rant, the annual temperature averages in Alaska have been moving consistently higher for the past half century, and moving faster recently.
However, look at a map of Alaska: it is a very large, distinct land mass. Weather patterns can make a huge difference in the temperatures, winter and summer, depending on location of the jet stream, whether it is pulling air out of the north near the pole, or drawing it up from the mild Pacific south.
Weather patterns can get locked in place for a month or more, or even for years or decades. Some say Alaska is getting stuck in a cold pattern that could last for decades, which would be good, in terms of offsetting the enormous damage to the state of global warming, but bad in terms of tourism.
As to politics, maybe, maybe things will get cleaned up a bit. But we won't see the evangelicals walking away.
Alaska is a great place to visit. Read up on it a bit, first. The book to start with is John McPhee's "Coming Into the Country." |
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