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I like George Bush, it's a lonely place..
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head-in-the-clouds



Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: London for now

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheonmunka wrote:
Any person who becomes President of the World's largest country in terms of might and wealth must do what they can to better humanity. He didn't. He destroyed good will, he didn't assist where people really need it. He was entrusted with a lot, yet he became untrustworthy.
This Iraq thing needn't have happened the way it did. It only did so because he was finishing what his very own dad started. That, is not acting responsibly in the interests of his people. That was a vendetta that soon became a seizure of goods and resources and a great deal of personal profiteering.


How is bettering humanity the role of president. I always believed the safety of a nation is the priority and I do believe America is safer now than 9/11. An act like this needed a strong reaction.

As for Iraq, I think everyone is clear Iraq was always an issue that needed to be dealt with, 9/11 was the perfect reason. America has an obligation to clean up the world of it's trash not to spread humanity, try spreading humanity in these hate-filled nations.

By the way, Iran is next on the list...
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newteacher



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like him. He's a horrible president, and I don't agree with his politics, but I bet he'd be a riot to hang out and do lines of coke and shots of bourbon with.
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Join Me



Joined: 14 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Bush was an absolutely horrible president but these days I do kinda pity the man. I think now even he has become aware of how incompetent he has been as Commander and Chief.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Join Me wrote:
I think Bush was an absolutely horrible president but these days I do kinda pity the man. I think now even he has become aware of how incompetent he has been as Commander and Chief.


Yeah, I wonder. He has reversed some opinions about making people evil, for example North Korea. Seems like there are few things he was very adamant against, and suddenly he's all about trying to work with things. Way too late into his administration though.

He must realize he is incompetent...I'd think it would be REAL hard to sleep MOST nights with his incompetence, I wonder. But I wonder if he REALLY knows though.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

head-in-the-clouds wrote:
I always believed the safety of a nation is the priority and I do believe America is safer now than 9/11. An act like this needed a strong reaction.


On Sept. 4, 2001 a multi-decade veteran of the FBI was discussing the 1993 WTC bombing on the Expert Witness Radio show hosted by Mike Levine, another 25-year FBI/DEA veteran agent. They agreed that the shortcomings which allowed the 1993 bombing had not been addressed, leading co-producer Christina Borjesson to exclaim, "Then we should not be surprised if there is another attack on the WTC!"

Similarly, we are no more secure today than before 9/11/2001.


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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Bush. (no pun intended).
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head-in-the-clouds



Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: London for now

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
[quote="head-in-the-clouds] I always believed the safety of a nation is the priority and I do believe America is safer now than 9/11. An act like this needed a strong reaction.


On Sept. 4, 2001 a multi-decade veteran of the FBI was discussing the 1993 WTC bombing on the Expert Witness Radio show hosted by Mike Levine, another 25-year FBI/DEA veteran agent. They agreed that the shortcomings which allowed the 1993 bombing had not been addressed, leading co-producer Christina Borjesson to exclaim, "Then we should not be surprised if there is another attack on the WTC!"

Similarly, we are no more secure today than before 9/11/2001.[/quote]

Your point is put across by contradicting yourself, im sure you tried hard.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

head-in-the-clouds wrote:
bacasper wrote:
head-in-the-clouds wrote:
I always believed the safety of a nation is the priority and I do believe America is safer now than 9/11. An act like this needed a strong reaction.


On Sept. 4, 2001 a multi-decade veteran of the FBI was discussing the 1993 WTC bombing on the Expert Witness Radio show hosted by Mike Levine, another 25-year FBI/DEA veteran agent. They agreed that the shortcomings which allowed the 1993 bombing had not been addressed, leading co-producer Christina Borjesson to exclaim, "Then we should not be surprised if there is another attack on the WTC!"

Similarly, we are no more secure today than before 9/11/2001.


Your point is put across by contradicting yourself, im sure you tried hard.

And you haven't explained yourself, despite trying hard.

And just where did I contradict myself?
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

head-in-the-clouds wrote:
Am i the only person in the world who likes 'W'.


I like him, too. Just not an effective president.
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head-in-the-clouds



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
head-in-the-clouds wrote:
bacasper wrote:
head-in-the-clouds wrote:
I always believed the safety of a nation is the priority and I do believe America is safer now than 9/11. An act like this needed a strong reaction.


On Sept. 4, 2001 a multi-decade veteran of the FBI was discussing the 1993 WTC bombing on the Expert Witness Radio show hosted by Mike Levine, another 25-year FBI/DEA veteran agent. They agreed that the shortcomings which allowed the 1993 bombing had not been addressed, leading co-producer Christina Borjesson to exclaim, "Then we should not be surprised if there is another attack on the WTC!"

Similarly, we are no more secure today than before 9/11/2001.


Your point is put across by contradicting yourself, im sure you tried hard.

And you haven't explained yourself, despite trying hard.

And just where did I contradict myself?


The problem after 93 was that the shortcomings had not been addressed. One of the many things Sir George can be accused is not a shortcoming in addressing 9/11.

Like it or not left wing Jim some aggressive action can address these previous problems and this is precisely what Bush did
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

head-in-the-clouds wrote:
The problem after 93 was that the shortcomings had not been addressed. One of the many things Sir George can be accused is not a shortcoming in addressing 9/11.

Like it or not left wing Jim some aggressive action can address these previous problems and this is precisely what Bush did

He was in office for nine months whenhe could have done something, right wing Rudy.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Bush had more problems to confront than any president since Roosevelt.

It's a President's job to HANDLE problems. The reason Bush had SO MANY PROBLEMS is because he was incompetent with dealing with problems.

Throughout the entire eight years, every thing he mishandled, I couldn't help but thinking how well-handled it would have been if say CLINTON was in office, etc.


9-11 a unique event no?

It is easier to manage an economy when oil is 12 dollars a barrel and when Russia is down and out.

Clinton was a decent president and also a lucky president.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crescent wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Bush had more problems to confront than any president since Roosevelt.

Like the English language, remembering the names of G7 leaders, and eating pretzels without choking?


see my answer above. then say it isn't so.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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crescent wrote:
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Bush had more problems to confront than any president since Roosevelt.
Like the English language, remembering the names of G7 leaders, and eating pretzels without choking?


Every one knows that this story was a lie, right?

It was a cover story.

The truth is he was slugged by someone. Probably his wife.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As for Iraq, I think everyone is clear Iraq was always an issue that needed to be dealt with

How old are you? You see, I remember the 'first' Iraq War very well. Before that, Iraq was a place of beauty. Foreign oil workers have been there since the sixties working and living. My own brother in law was there in the early eighties surveying and taking part in the local culture. I lived with a refugee who escaped during the first war - you should hear his stories, complete contrast to the bs on CNN.
You know what - even then the reasons given for going into Iraq for the first war were a crock of shit.
Saying that Iraq was always a problem is historical baloney.
There is a need for security, but Iraq was not part of it. It is now. It has become a hotbed only recently. You should realize this. Study some history.
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