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[Geckoman]

Koreans going to Guam, USA, to have their baby be born with U.S. citizenship has been going on since forever, making the American press every couple of years.

I once had a student who told me that his cousin was born in Guam via such a scheme.

Guam is only a four hour flight from Seoul. Who knew America was so close to Korea. In terms of time difference, Guam is one hour ahead of Korea.

Koreans also go to Saipan, which is the largest island of the U.S. territory called the Northern Mariana Islands, which is just north of Guam, to do the same thing.

Here is a recent article about it. To read it go to http://www.guampdn.com/article/20081029/NEWS01/810290345/-1/NEWSFRONT2 or see below.

Folks will do anything for a "Born in U.S.A." baby.

American citizenship = priceless.

[Geckoman]

Here is a follow-up article.

Go to http://www.guampdn.com/article/20081030/NEWS01/810300307 or see below.

[mindmetoo]

It's a great idea. Koreans pay rack rates for hospital services. They fill hotels. Jobs. Those US dollars Americans send for tvs, Koreans bring back and give them to doctors, nurses, hotel clerks, etc.

What's the cost to the USA?

[wylies99]

More "citizens" who will qualify for government money for education, medical services, social security, etc... without ever ONCE paying a cent of taxes into the system. Yeah, there's definitely a COST to the USA.

[cobright]

[sojourner1]

So a foreign non-American couple can visit US soil to have a baby to the baby an American citizen?

It seems silly that you become American just from being born there. It's the same baby whether it was born in Seoul or flown in the mothers womb elsewhere. I thought your parents had to have citizenship otherwise your parents are suppose to register you as a new citizen in your home country while registering you in the US as an alien immigrant.

Of course, when a Korean becomes 18, they have to make a choice in the case of dual citizenship.

[bassexpander]

Much of the attraction for doing that was that the child could be exempt from military service. As I understand it, the law changed on that a year or two ago. Now they still must serve.

[reactionary]

And why is the US allowing Korea to join the VWP again??????? Might as well give it to Central American countries and other places that commit visa and citizenship fraud.

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

tit for tat, I say. My son was born here of non-Korean parents and was not entitled to citizenship as he would have been in either of the two countries of which I am a citizen and had foreign parents. As such, Koreans children born abroad should have jus sanguis applied to their cases as is the case here.

[pkang0202]

[reactionary]

How many more will do this if they can do it in LA rather than Guam?

I don't have any numbers, but the fact that there are businesses devoted to it means there are likely enough scammers for it to be a profitable scheme.

[Geckoman]

[pkang0202]

[quote="reactionary"]How many more will do this if they can do it in LA rather than Guam?

Lets not be delusional here. A very small minority of people will take try and have their babies be born with US citizenship. The vast vast majority of people are going to use the VWP to visit their relatives, sight see, and tour America.

I think 747's packed with pregnant Korean women is a little farfetched.


Instead preventing Koreans from coming to the US via Visa Waver, why not amend the laws so that only children born/adopt from/to US citizens are Us citizens.

Do you think its right to punish tens of millions of people for the infractions of a few hundred?


And frankly, the law is a loophole. If some people take advantage of the loophole, then so be it. Koreans aren't the only ones that take advantage of loopholes in US law. Why don't you ask any lawyer that works in the US. Hell, YOU'VE probably gotten out of a ticket/offense due to a legal loophole yourself.

[mindmetoo]

[mindmetoo]